Fans of Paper White 2

jbcohen · 11-01-2013, 08:21 AM

I keep seeing many people in various threads who seem to not like the new paper white 2, is there anyone out there that has one of the new models who likes it better then the original?

HarryT · 11-01-2013, 08:42 AM

I think that many people will probably object to the use of the word "fan", JB. I enjoy using my PW2, but I'm not a fanatic; it's merely a tool to read with.

I do prefer it to the PW1.

Rizla · 11-01-2013, 08:58 AM

I've read the comments about the PW2 and I don't agree. I would say a majority of users prefer it over the PW1. PW2 manufacture quality-control does seem to be a bit hit-and-miss, so if you get one you are unhappy with, try another one. My purely subjective feeling is that a third to a quarter of PW2s are perfect, a third to a quarter are seriously flawed, and the rest are somewhere in between. Personally, I'd wait a bit. Quality control will improve over time.

Rizla · 11-01-2013, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

I think that many people will probably object to the use of the word "fan"...

They might object, but it is often accurate.

sirmaru · 11-01-2013, 10:13 AM

I like my PW 2013 and think its screens show better contrast between the fonts and background than the PW 2012. Of course, contrast is a perception and some may not agree.

HarryT · 11-01-2013, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirmaru

Of course, contrast is a perception and some may not agree.

Contrast is not a perception; it's an objective quantity measured using an instrument called a photometer. If you look at eInk's web site, you'll find the contrast of each type of screen they manufacture expressed numerically.

pidgeon92 · 11-01-2013, 10:49 AM

I prefer the my PW2 to my PW1. I've owned most of the eink Kindle models, and each new model has been an improvement in my eyes.

aceflor · 11-01-2013, 10:55 AM

I prefer my PW2 to my PW1. I like its speed, I like the options, and I prefer the cream color of the display.

ProfCrash · 11-01-2013, 10:56 AM

I prefer my PW2 to my K3.

nynaevelan · 11-01-2013, 11:10 AM

First let me start off by saying I am not as technical or critical as many of the posters regarding the specs of either the PW1 or PW2. With that said, I like my PW2 better than the PW1 because the page refresh is much improved and I do not have the occasional page jumping which I did with the PW1. Also, the speed seems to be a little bit better. On the PW1 I had the four little dots on the bottom of the screen from the light, while that did not bother me at all, not having them there removes that minor annoyance. I also like the flip page, which is something I use a lot with my series reading because I jump through series instead of reading them all together. Having that flip page allows me to refer back to info I may have forgotten. Saving bookmarks is not as one step as they were on the PW1 so I like that better than this two tap thing you now have to do. Though I will say this is better is you've mistakenly tapped into a bookmark spot. Other than that, they are really just the same. I am sure there are many other features they differ in but they are not features I use regularly, so I am not concerned with them. We will see if the PW2 earns its keep once the GoodReads Integration and Cloud Collections goes live.

sirmaru · 11-01-2013, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Contrast is not a perception; it's an objective quantity measured using an instrument called a photometer. If you look at eInk's web site, you'll find the contrast of each type of screen they manufacture expressed numerically.

Can you direct me to a link showing the numerical contrast measurements for the PW 2012 and the PW 2013? It would be fascinating to know those numbers.

HarryT · 11-01-2013, 12:09 PM

It's in the PDF specification documents for each screen type. Contrast is expressed as a ratio between the black and white levels on the screen.

Eg:
Pearl has a contrast ratio of 10:1
Carta has a contrast ratio of 15:1

sparklemotion · 11-01-2013, 12:13 PM

I definitely prefer the PW2 to the PW1. It's nice to use a device and not see a rainbow on it like I saw on my PW1. I also love the new software additions too. Plus it's faster.

jersysman · 11-01-2013, 04:31 PM

PW2 is definitely better than the PW1 in my eyes. I still read on both.

For what it is worth, I am not a fan of any brand or product. As one can see in the devices I own, I like to spread around the wealth.

With that said, I hope that I am still eligible to respond to this thread.

7hir7een · 11-01-2013, 08:02 PM

I vastly prefer my PW2 to my PW1.

My PW1 had significant color blobbing, my PW2 does not.
The lighting is much more even on my PW2.
I notice an improvement in contrast with my PW2.
I prefer the warm tone of my PW2, which looks more like a real book to me.
My PW2 is noticeably faster.
The lower end of brightness selections on my PW2 start darker, so I have more options to adjust through when I'm reading at night. (i.e., I'll usually start at 8, then as my eyes adjust, go down to about 5)
Although these are software features that might come to the PW2 later, I'm enjoying the page flip and vocabulary builder functions.

Overall, the only things I miss from my PW1 are the things that require a jailbreak, like the screensaver hack and JBpatch. And custom fonts, but at least embedding is an option to work around that.

11-01-2013, 08:21 AM	#1
jbcohen Wizard Posts: 3,030 Karma: 11196738 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Where am I? Device: Kindle Paperwhite Signature edition and a Samsung S24 Ultra	Fans of Paper White 2 I keep seeing many people in various threads who seem to not like the new paper white 2, is there anyone out there that has one of the new models who likes it better then the original?

11-01-2013, 10:55 AM	#8
aceflor Wizard Posts: 3,472 Karma: 48036360 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: where the sun lives, or so they say Device: Pocketbook Era, Pocketbook Inkpad 4, Kobo Libra 2, Kindle Scribe	I prefer my PW2 to my PW1. I like its speed, I like the options, and I prefer the cream color of the display. Last edited by aceflor; 11-01-2013 at 06:16 PM.

11-01-2013, 11:10 AM	#10
nynaevelan eBook Junkie Posts: 1,526 Karma: 1464018 Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Device: Kindle Fire 2020, Kindle PW2	First let me start off by saying I am not as technical or critical as many of the posters regarding the specs of either the PW1 or PW2. With that said, I like my PW2 better than the PW1 because the page refresh is much improved and I do not have the occasional page jumping which I did with the PW1. Also, the speed seems to be a little bit better. On the PW1 I had the four little dots on the bottom of the screen from the light, while that did not bother me at all, not having them there removes that minor annoyance. I also like the flip page, which is something I use a lot with my series reading because I jump through series instead of reading them all together. Having that flip page allows me to refer back to info I may have forgotten. Saving bookmarks is not as one step as they were on the PW1 so I like that better than this two tap thing you now have to do. Though I will say this is better is you've mistakenly tapped into a bookmark spot. Other than that, they are really just the same. I am sure there are many other features they differ in but they are not features I use regularly, so I am not concerned with them. We will see if the PW2 earns its keep once the GoodReads Integration and Cloud Collections goes live. Last edited by nynaevelan; 11-01-2013 at 11:14 AM.

11-01-2013, 08:02 PM	#15
7hir7een Reader of Books Posts: 249 Karma: 178096 Join Date: Oct 2012 Device: Kobo Libra Colour, Clara Colour, Libra 2, Elipsa	I vastly prefer my PW2 to my PW1. My PW1 had significant color blobbing, my PW2 does not. The lighting is much more even on my PW2. I notice an improvement in contrast with my PW2. I prefer the warm tone of my PW2, which looks more like a real book to me. My PW2 is noticeably faster. The lower end of brightness selections on my PW2 start darker, so I have more options to adjust through when I'm reading at night. (i.e., I'll usually start at 8, then as my eyes adjust, go down to about 5) Although these are software features that might come to the PW2 later, I'm enjoying the page flip and vocabulary builder functions. Overall, the only things I miss from my PW1 are the things that require a jailbreak, like the screensaver hack and JBpatch. And custom fonts, but at least embedding is an option to work around that.

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11-01-2013, 08:42 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I think that many people will probably object to the use of the word "fan", JB. I enjoy using my PW2, but I'm not a fanatic; it's merely a tool to read with. I do prefer it to the PW1.

11-01-2013, 08:58 AM	#3
Rizla Member Retired Posts: 3,183 Karma: 11721895 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Nook STR (rooted) & Sony T2	I've read the comments about the PW2 and I don't agree. I would say a majority of users prefer it over the PW1. PW2 manufacture quality-control does seem to be a bit hit-and-miss, so if you get one you are unhappy with, try another one. My purely subjective feeling is that a third to a quarter of PW2s are perfect, a third to a quarter are seriously flawed, and the rest are somewhere in between. Personally, I'd wait a bit. Quality control will improve over time.

11-01-2013, 10:13 AM	#5
sirmaru Wizard Posts: 2,426 Karma: 6561538 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: Kindle PW 2013, HDX 2013, Galaxy S5 2014	I like my PW 2013 and think its screens show better contrast between the fonts and background than the PW 2012. Of course, contrast is a perception and some may not agree.

11-01-2013, 10:49 AM	#7
pidgeon92 Wizard Posts: 3,144 Karma: 8426142 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Device: Kindle PW2, Kindle Voyage, Kindle DXG, Boox M90, Kobo Aura HD	I prefer the my PW2 to my PW1. I've owned most of the eink Kindle models, and each new model has been an improvement in my eyes.

11-01-2013, 10:56 AM	#9
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	I prefer my PW2 to my K3.

11-01-2013, 12:09 PM	#12
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	It's in the PDF specification documents for each screen type. Contrast is expressed as a ratio between the black and white levels on the screen. Eg: Pearl has a contrast ratio of 10:1 Carta has a contrast ratio of 15:1

11-01-2013, 12:13 PM	#13
sparklemotion dangerous when cornered Posts: 1,855 Karma: 22891237 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA Device: Kobo H2O, Kindle Paperwhite	I definitely prefer the PW2 to the PW1. It's nice to use a device and not see a rainbow on it like I saw on my PW1. I also love the new software additions too. Plus it's faster.

11-01-2013, 04:31 PM	#14
jersysman Wizard Posts: 1,747 Karma: 3761220 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Pennsylvania Device: T1 Red, Kindle Fire, Kindle PW, PW2, Nook HD+, Kobo Mini, Aura HD	PW2 is definitely better than the PW1 in my eyes. I still read on both. For what it is worth, I am not a fan of any brand or product. As one can see in the devices I own, I like to spread around the wealth. With that said, I hope that I am still eligible to respond to this thread.

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