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Confusion over number of requests for SD csrd images
Something I'm not at all sure I understand is the number of people who brick their devices.
What is so hard about downloading the correct file and placing it on their device? Last edited by PeterT; 08-18-2013 at 12:49 AM. |
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My guess: not following instructions.
I haven't had issues with Kobo devices since it's straight forward, but I have managed to brick my TF300T (Android) with third party firmware before. It was, erm, a good lesson on why you read instructions and I learnt a lot about the Android boot process in the process. ![]() |
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I've found the Kobo so straight forward, using either my Sony or Kobo power cord to charge it once a week, and Calibre to fill it with books, that I have difficulty imagining that ANYONE could have a problem with this e-reader. Stitchawl |
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Some possibilities that come to mind would be removing the uSD card and accessing it outside the ereader, using a console connection (telnet, etc.) to access the Linux filesystem, installing a firmware version that does not support the device as one person who installed an old Touch only firmware version on an Aura HD. Regards, David Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. Rick Cook |
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I don't dress up a can of 'Spam' with cloves and honey hoping it will taste like fresh ham. I won't put a Harley engine into a motor scooter frame and hope that it will run like a Harley. And I won't put a fancy operating system into a simple e-reader hoping it will perform like a Cray Supercomputer.
It's an e-reader. It's for reading books. It works flawlessly for that. Why ask it to be more? If I want more, I'll use a computer and get more. Stitchawl |
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Does not work flawlessly when Kobo servers mess up.
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Having messed up shelves and a bricked device are very different things. Having to do a factory reset and having a bricked device are very different things.
People generally brick their devices when they try to do things that take attention to detail and involve doing things to their reader that are outside of normal usage. Even something as seemingly simple as adding an update to device from a downloaded file, rather than through Kobo's process, can screw things up if done improperly. |
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People make mistakes, power outages happen inconveniently, and some just want to go where no one has ever trod before
![]() I have never managed to brick my Kobos no matter how hard I tried. They do behave in some strange and unexpected ways at times, for the Aura straight out of the box. It would freeze on opening after loading 549 books to the SD card and do this repeatedly, until I took out the card connected it to the computer, got it to boot, and put in the card again. This was in April, and it still does this occasionally. Of course it is my fault for daring to use an SD card and put 1/60th of the advertised capacity for books on it, but I was a tad naïve at the time. There was a slot so I put a card in it. There was room for 30,000 of books so I put 549 on it. Mea Culpa. And for those intrepid souls, who dismantle their devices or install 3rd party firmware on it, I gotta admire their guts. I've rooted an older tablet or two to bring them up to a useable level, and have a background in circuit board design and prototype building, but so far lack the courage and energy to take apart my Kobos ![]() It has been my overall experience that people who do this as well as those that root their devices do it aware iof the pitfalls. The may ask for help, but not in a whining fashion, and often provide interesting and at least to me valuable information. Casting blame on them is tantamount to casting blame on Davidfor or PeterT for all of the great work that they have done in making the Kobo a lot more user friendly and some have even done that. Helen |
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![]() On a more serious note, anyone who starts experimenting without having made a backup copy of the internal SD card to allow returning to a known good condition would let someone else pack her/his parachute. Regards, David |
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I don't do the epubcheck or flightcrew thing. No doubt they are invaluable but I am not anal in that way. The 549 books were the exact same books I had on my Mini with no problems. The same books loaded flawlessly on my Aura a couple of times when I just deleted them and started over, and a few more times they didn't. And the Kobo didn't actually freeze it just took quite a while to come back. I believe you may have had a similar experience once or twice? Goes to the second set of squares and appears to be stuck? And you always use epubcheck don't you? The thing with the Kobo being slow to boot does not seem to me to be connected to the actual books as it will boot in seconds at times and take over an hour at others. Same books. And for me the reboot doesn't always come after being connected to the PC. Sometimes it comes during a library search and I seldom search, or once when I accidentally hit a shelf tile on the home screen. Yesterday it froze for about 5 minutes while reading a book. Then it came back, but displayed the cover of the book I was reading before that but that book did not come up on the current book tile. The book I was reading when it froze was in the top left tile and saying unread in the library view. I found my exact place again and it worked fine. I just don't see this as a fault in the book. That plus the fact that recent updates have improved things quite a bit, maybe a reboot a month instead of several weekly or on occasion even daily indicates that it is a firmware issue. My books are pretty much the same. I will delete the ones I have read about once a month and put on some random new ones. I am glad that things are getting marginally better firmware wise, but admit that I think it is taken far too long. As for the opening/searching, that has never been a problem speed-wise for me, just a pain in the butt as I have become accustomed to using shelves/collections on my other readers and find it not only faster but more convenient. Some readers don't have shelves or collections and that is fine, but if they are provided they should not require you to open the shelf menu and go have a coffee while you wait. Sorry for being so curmudgeonly, but seeing a couple of the same voices that dumped on people who dared to criticise Kobo, mostly in a kind of Oliver Twist way, dumping once again on people who are only guilty of trying to work around the problems. Perhaps some people never get a problem. Good for them. I suspect for the most part don't read 5 or 6 books a week but I could be wrong on that one. Helen |
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For some of the comments pro and con about some posters, I'm on the fence there. There have been some criticisms of Kobo that I, personally, feel were not justified. Others I have agreed with. I tend to be suspicious of anyone who claims never to have any problems. As you said, they are probably not making much use of their ereader. Going back quite a few years, there was a columnist (mostly noted for having a Windows logo tattoo) who kept stating that people who got regular blue screens with Windows 3.1/3.11 were simply not using their computers properly and he personally never saw any. Oddly, after Windows 95 was released and he switched, in one column, he commented that he happy to no longer see multiple blue screens every day. Regards, David Last edited by DNSB; 08-17-2013 at 10:56 PM. Reason: Fat fingers cause typos... |
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These same books appear to work well on the Sonys and my mother's Kindle, the Sony Reader software, the Kindle App, Aldiko and even the dreaded Moon+ reader. Perhaps epubcheck would point out numerous errors but many have been recently published library books and I don't remove the DRM from library books. Did a couple just to see if it could be done, but doesn't seem right somehow, so I just don't. Only issue I have had on my PC or tablets other readers is just a butt ugly book to begin with. Early Project Gutenberg for example. Kobo may be the only reader displaying books exactly as the publisher intended, but if this is the case why aren't the publishers protesting about all the other readers and apps and peek inside the book and even their own website previews displaying them in a pleasant and readable manner. I just can't get my head around the concept. Quote:
As to resetting before updating the database, hasn't reset for a while, but could have been on an earlier reset. I'm pretty care ful about ejecting the Kobos, and generally eject in calibre and from the computer menu, and then power off the computer before actually unplugging. A bit bizarre, but I only plug my Kobo into the USB port when I want to do something that requires it. The farther away from the computer I keep it the better it behaves ![]() Thank you for your courteous replies and input. Hopefully I will stop ranting now. Just thrown into the flight or fight mode, or the pillage and burn mode at the implication that those who brick their devices are all sub moronic nincompoops. Helen |
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Is it really apropriate to have a thread here dedicated to bashing people who have had an unfortunate experience in upgrading their devices? And thinly veiling it under the heading "CONFUSION"? I don't think so. Certainly there is more important things this forum could be discussing don't you think?
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