Wrapping text around images

lof · 11-15-2012, 11:19 AM

It seems the default behaviour when converting a text with images is 'no wrapping' i.e. text starts after the image and there is no paragraph using the space on the left/right.

It would be useful especially when the first letter of a chapter is an image (dropped initial) as in old-times illuminations. Example with the attached edition of "Three Men in a Boat" (CHM).

Isn't there an option so that conversion detects when one image is left/right aligned so the text can be wrapped alongside? I've tried to add "float: left" in css as Kovid mentioned in another similar thread but am not sure if I am doing this properly.

Thank you

HarryT · 11-15-2012, 11:55 AM

You'd be better off asking this in the ePub forum. This isn't something that Calibre can do for you - you need to learn how to create ebooks the "proper" way.

lof · 11-15-2012, 02:13 PM

Well thx for the answer but my question was about possible converting options (look and feel, heuristics), not about creating an epub altogether. I use Sigil for that, but I would hope that, now or in the foreseeable future, calibre will not request the use of another software (or learning all about epub) to just wrap text alongside images when these are aligned with margins.

theducks · 11-15-2012, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lof

Well thx for the answer but my question was about possible converting options (look and feel, heuristics), not about creating an epub altogether. I use Sigil for that, but I would hope that, now or in the foreseeable future, calibre will not request the use of another software (or learning all about epub) to just wrap text alongside images when these are aligned with margins.

Conversion can't add (something that subtle) that was not there to begin with.
If you convert something with a dropcap, the output will usually have a dropcap, if the format supports.

HarryT · 11-16-2012, 02:26 AM

Yes, that was the point I was attempting to make. Things like drop caps are a technical feature of the book, and need to be addressed in terms of ebook editing, which is really not what Calibre does.

Agama · 11-16-2012, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

Conversion can't add (something that subtle) that was not there to begin with.
If you convert something with a dropcap, the output will usually have a dropcap, if the format supports.

I've had a look at the source chm file that the OP posted and the required information is there to begin with: some images are left-justified with text flowing to the right; some are right-justified with text flowing left; some are centred with no text either side.

So it looks like this info is being lost somewhere in the conversion pipeline. I don't know if this is due to technical diffilculties or is just that CHM conversion is still maturing, but it looks as though the OP's request may be possible.

theducks · 11-16-2012, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agama

I've had a look at the source chm file that the OP posted and the required information is there to begin with: some images are left-justified with text flowing to the right; some are right-justified with text flowing left; some are centred with no text either side.

So it looks like this info is being lost somewhere in the conversion pipeline. I don't know if this is due to technical diffilculties or is just that CHM conversion is still maturing, but it looks as though the OP's request may be possible.

Sounds like time for the OP to check the Bug List and file one (attaching the chm file) if there is not one already.

lof · 11-17-2012, 07:28 PM

OK, thanks everyone for having a look at the issue. I think this is not specific to the chm format here but I can't find another example where conversion to epub rendered text that would float smoothly alongside images.
That is except from conversions from pdfs, but I understand there is not point in bettering pdf guess-work just here.

I'll check the bug list and come back to suggest a new bug definition.

Agama · 11-17-2012, 07:45 PM

You don't need to find an example where it works. Your chm shows clearly an example where is doesn't work and this should be sufficient for an enhancement request.

lof · 11-20-2012, 07:13 AM

Ok Agama, I will put that in the wishlist.
Thank you.

lof · 11-22-2012, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Fixed in branch lp:calibre. The fix will be in the next release. calibre
is usually released every Friday.

status fixreleased

** Changed in: calibre
Status: New => Fix Released

Thanks Kovid!

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11-15-2012, 11:55 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	You'd be better off asking this in the ePub forum. This isn't something that Calibre can do for you - you need to learn how to create ebooks the "proper" way.

11-15-2012, 02:13 PM	#3
lof Member Posts: 11 Karma: 30 Join Date: Nov 2012 Device: Nook Color	Well thx for the answer but my question was about possible converting options (look and feel, heuristics), not about creating an epub altogether. I use Sigil for that, but I would hope that, now or in the foreseeable future, calibre will not request the use of another software (or learning all about epub) to just wrap text alongside images when these are aligned with margins.

11-16-2012, 02:26 AM	#5
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Yes, that was the point I was attempting to make. Things like drop caps are a technical feature of the book, and need to be addressed in terms of ebook editing, which is really not what Calibre does.

11-17-2012, 07:28 PM	#8
lof Member Posts: 11 Karma: 30 Join Date: Nov 2012 Device: Nook Color	OK, thanks everyone for having a look at the issue. I think this is not specific to the chm format here but I can't find another example where conversion to epub rendered text that would float smoothly alongside images. That is except from conversions from pdfs, but I understand there is not point in bettering pdf guess-work just here. I'll check the bug list and come back to suggest a new bug definition.

11-17-2012, 07:45 PM	#9
Agama Guru Posts: 776 Karma: 2751519 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: UK Device: PW2, Nexus7	You don't need to find an example where it works. Your chm shows clearly an example where is doesn't work and this should be sufficient for an enhancement request.

11-20-2012, 07:13 AM	#10
lof Member Posts: 11 Karma: 30 Join Date: Nov 2012 Device: Nook Color	Ok Agama, I will put that in the wishlist. Thank you.

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