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Wizard
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Kindle Fire Is A Service
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People are wondering if Amazon video will be offered on other tablets and phones. It will. Amazon makes money when people subscribe to Prime because they buy more stuff. The only ones who will keep Amazon services off a platform are the platform's owners. They won't. Not offering Amazon services will put their product at a disadvantage. So, what about all those Amazon Kindles? They create purchase opportunities. I expect that my new Fire's front facing camera and inexpensive 4G will work together to let me know when the item I'm thinking about buying is less expensive through Amazon. That I'll get it in two days with free shipping if I am a Prime subscriber and that I can subscribe to Prime immediately by pressing a button. Oh, and that there are some really good movies on Prime. If you have an EV, you'll be glad to know that Amazon can ship that 80" Sanyo to your home for free! When Amazon opens a Retail Store in your area, the new TV may be waiting by the time you get home from Best Buy. Quote:
How about a little Amazon TV? See something you like in a commercial and press the 'buy' button on your remote for prices and offers? Finish the audio book you almost finished on your commute? Watch the movie? Offer to resume a movie you were watching when you turn on a tv in another room? I think this kind of 'service' is the next rung in the evolution of information systems and that Amazon is working hard to bring it to us. I can't wait! Last edited by wizwor; 09-09-2012 at 06:49 PM. |
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Yep, every time Amazon sells a Kindle or Fire they're putting a storefront in someone's hands. That's where they make money: by using their devices as sales tools for additional purchases.
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Then they need a Pocket Fire - a 4" PMP with free 3G access to their website.
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Sorry. I'm definitely a device person, not a service person. I don't like buying something and then being tied to an ongoing service. I'd like to buy the most suitable device and then buy content at the best sites for that content -- preferably with multiple sites competing for my business.
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If thats the Case give me the device for free or relatively low cost. or charge me 3 bucks a month for it like a cable box.
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But when the device has at least some value without the service the most the vendor can properly do is discount it. They have no way to actually *force* you to use the linked services after all. Think of the TiVo's: you buy the hardware, pay for the TiVo service to be able to use the box, and you pay again wth your eyeballs watching commercials. But if you don't actually watch TV they don't get the ad revenues. (Apparently, the ad revenue is where their profit comes from.) Microsoft ran into that problem with the original XBOX: they were looking to make money off the games but once hackers figured out how to turn them into media centers with XBMC a far amount of XBOXes were sold that never generated game revenue. Vendors don't like when people do that to their business plans. ![]() There's a whole lot of different subsidized-hardware business models for different products depending on the exact situation. Razors and razor blades is one extreme--the razors are cheap enough to manufacture in volume that even if they go unused the cost of giving them away doesn't impact profitability but other products don't have that luxury. So the subsidy tends to be just enough to make the product entice but not enough the company goes out of business. |
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Grand Master of Flowers
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I think the point Amazon is really making is that consumers want both a device *and* some way of easily getting content on the device. Selling the device and not worrying about the content means few people will buy the device because there's not much they can do with it. The Kindle is a good example. The Sony reader was introduced more than a year before the Kindle came on the market (the Librie several years earlier, but only in Japan). However, the Kindle quickly overtook the Sony and within a couple of years had 90% of the US market. The reason for this is simple: with the Kindle you could buy books from Amazon, wirelessly. Sony didn't have a store at all at that time. Device+Service 90; Device alone 10. It's notable that when B&N came on the scene with their device+service, they didn't take long to get to 25% of the market; again, because they offered device+service. The key, though, is that you have to actually be offering a *real* service. Something that people actually want. Something that adds actual value to a device. And of course in some markets, you can just offer the device because the content for the device is readily available. I think time will tell whether the Fire is in the first or second market. |
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In all honesty, I think the biggest reasons for the success of Amazon and B&N are size and name recognition. As with MP3s, Amazon let someone else develop a market and then entered.
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Wizard
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I disagree, Cromag. Amazon is for the lazy. Set Amazon.com as your home page and you can get tv, a movie, a song, a dress, or a tv. You can read reviews and get everything shipped to your door. You can subscribe to products you use a lot. Amazon is easy -- it's the ultimate convenience store. And you pay NO premium for the convenience. Along the way, they have put their logo on some pretty slick products.
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