Until when DRM ebooks will haunt us?

avid01 · 06-13-2013, 01:36 PM

Consider this:

-1st there were DRM music
- Now music is DRM free
- Ebooks are still DRM
- Until when?

I haven't dug myself into the background of all this and how the industry works but in your best knowledge how long we will have to use DRM ebooks?

JoHunt · 06-13-2013, 01:52 PM

DRM ebooks have never haunted me. I buy ebooks from all sellers according to best price and then read them on my device du jour. I don't even think about it anymore.

Apache · 06-13-2013, 02:44 PM

What DRM? All of my books are DRM free thanks to Alf.

Apache

AlbertaCowboy · 06-13-2013, 03:01 PM

Granted, there's a large following of Master Alf here, but as the popularity of ereading increases, so too do the number of unApprenticed readers.
Right now, I think a large chunk of the unApprenticed aren't bothered by DRM because they can simply use the Kindle app, or the Kobo app or whatever, so they haven't been affected as much as say, a Sony user wanting to buy from the Kindle store.
The hardware (tablets for the most part) aren't forcing a choice in stores. People just switch from app to app to app as necessary.

HarryT · 06-13-2013, 03:01 PM

Who gives a damn? As Apache says, your friend Alf will sort it for you.

Most people just aren't bothered about DRM. They buy a Kindle; they buy books from Amazon. What DRM? They never see it.

cromag · 06-13-2013, 03:07 PM

Still, I'd rather Alf could retire in a world where buying an ebook gets you an ebook you can read, just like that.

JSWolf · 06-13-2013, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Who gives a damn? As Apache says, your friend Alf will sort it for you.

Most people just aren't bothered about DRM. They buy a Kindle; they buy books from Amazon. What DRM? They never see it.

Most people buy an ePub capable Reader. Kindle may be the #1 brand, but ePub is the #1 format.

HarryT · 06-13-2013, 03:11 PM

I've tried to introduce Alf to my friends at work, most of whom have Kindles. Not one person has been interested. "Normal" people just don't care. They buy a book a month (or whatever) from Amazon, read it, delete it. They never see DRM.

HarryT · 06-13-2013, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Most people buy an ePub capable Reader. Kindle may be the #1 brand, but ePub is the #1 format.

Not in Britain, Jon. Amazon totally dominates here. Different market to the US. I know lots of people with readers. Every single one is a Kindle.

Ken Maltby · 06-13-2013, 03:20 PM

People buying ebooks are still overwhelmingly PC users to start with. They know how to find ways to do what they want, even if that means how to read on a different device. They may be lucky or smart enough to have looked into the issue here at MR, but there are probably a great deal more who find what they need through search engines or other forums or blogs. Any who may wish to leave any walled garden they find themselves in will have no problem doing so, that many don't bother or prefer it there is just the way things are. Just one more of the strange things that people who aren't me, do.

Luck;
Ken

JSWolf · 06-13-2013, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Not in Britain, Jon. Amazon totally dominates here. Different market to the US. I know lots of people with readers. Every single one is a Kindle.

This is not a British or a US only forum. It's a world wide forum. So, you have to go with the World's majority and the majority worldwide is ePub.

jgaiser · 06-13-2013, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Most people buy an ePub capable Reader. Kindle may be the #1 brand, but ePub is the #1 format.

And of course you have data on this, right?

Fluribus · 06-13-2013, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Not in Britain, Jon. Amazon totally dominates here. Different market to the US. I know lots of people with readers. Every single one is a Kindle.

I have a theory that folks over their think it's Avalon and that if they buy enough Kindles, King Arthur will come back.

As for DRM in ebooks, I think it's too early to tell. There's been a slight move in publishing, but it isn't really a movement.

Music DRM caused consumers a lot more headache. Many people had players that couldn't handle the DRM. The DRM had to be re-authenticated on a regular basis.

Chi Cygni · 06-13-2013, 04:19 PM

I've been buying watermarked books for a year now or so. And once I pay I get the copy both in mobi and epub. I haven't touched ADE for a looong time.

JSWolf · 06-13-2013, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgaiser

And of course you have data on this, right?

And you have data that says I'm wrong?

06-13-2013, 03:01 PM	#4
AlbertaCowboy Guru Posts: 819 Karma: 171672846 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Device: PRS-350, PRS-650, iPhone 6, NVIDIA Shield K1	Granted, there's a large following of Master Alf here, but as the popularity of ereading increases, so too do the number of unApprenticed readers. Right now, I think a large chunk of the unApprenticed aren't bothered by DRM because they can simply use the Kindle app, or the Kobo app or whatever, so they haven't been affected as much as say, a Sony user wanting to buy from the Kindle store. The hardware (tablets for the most part) aren't forcing a choice in stores. People just switch from app to app to app as necessary. Last edited by AlbertaCowboy; 06-13-2013 at 03:03 PM.

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06-13-2013, 01:36 PM	#1
avid01 Addict Posts: 300 Karma: 2000410 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle 4	Until when DRM ebooks will haunt us? Consider this: -1st there were DRM music - Now music is DRM free - Ebooks are still DRM - Until when? I haven't dug myself into the background of all this and how the industry works but in your best knowledge how long we will have to use DRM ebooks?

06-13-2013, 01:52 PM	#2
JoHunt I am what I am Posts: 6,625 Karma: 62235665 Join Date: Sep 2011 Device: iPad3, Voyage	DRM ebooks have never haunted me. I buy ebooks from all sellers according to best price and then read them on my device du jour. I don't even think about it anymore.

06-13-2013, 02:44 PM	#3
Apache Readaholic Posts: 5,255 Karma: 90000484 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: South Georgia Device: Surface Pro 6 / Galaxy Tab A 8"	What DRM? All of my books are DRM free thanks to Alf. Apache

06-13-2013, 03:01 PM	#5
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Who gives a damn? As Apache says, your friend Alf will sort it for you. Most people just aren't bothered about DRM. They buy a Kindle; they buy books from Amazon. What DRM? They never see it.

06-13-2013, 03:07 PM	#6
cromag Surfin the alpha waves ~~ Posts: 26,028 Karma: 459735575 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: New Jersey Device: Jetbook Lite & Mini, Nook STR, Kobo, Hanvon N516, Kindle 2, Androids	Still, I'd rather Alf could retire in a world where buying an ebook gets you an ebook you can read, just like that.

06-13-2013, 03:11 PM	#8
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I've tried to introduce Alf to my friends at work, most of whom have Kindles. Not one person has been interested. "Normal" people just don't care. They buy a book a month (or whatever) from Amazon, read it, delete it. They never see DRM.

06-13-2013, 03:20 PM	#10
Ken Maltby Wizard Posts: 4,466 Karma: 6900052 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Heart of Texas Device: Boox Note2, AuraHD, PDA,	People buying ebooks are still overwhelmingly PC users to start with. They know how to find ways to do what they want, even if that means how to read on a different device. They may be lucky or smart enough to have looked into the issue here at MR, but there are probably a great deal more who find what they need through search engines or other forums or blogs. Any who may wish to leave any walled garden they find themselves in will have no problem doing so, that many don't bother or prefer it there is just the way things are. Just one more of the strange things that people who aren't me, do. Luck; Ken

06-13-2013, 04:19 PM	#14
Chi Cygni 秋子 permanently lurking Posts: 844 Karma: 6590735 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Europe Device: Oasis 3, Pocketbook Era	I've been buying watermarked books for a year now or so. And once I pay I get the copy both in mobi and epub. I haven't touched ADE for a looong time.

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