Low application space?

tstarky · 12-01-2011, 07:04 PM

I'm getting a message in the notification area "Low on Application space". I was installing an .apk from Dropbox and when I touch Install I get an error "Insufficient Application Storage" and an option to Manage Applications or Cancel. I went to the App store and was able to install one via Amazon. I tried again with side-loading and I still get the same errors.

Anyone know what I can do about this?

I have 144 apps (all are very important apps that I MUST have

). My device shows 4.39g of 6.54 available. Seems that should be plenty of space for my little 70 kb app I want to install.

DreamWriter · 12-01-2011, 07:49 PM

I have read in another forum that the same problem has been reported by others. One suggestion was to remove several apps and then reinstall them. Someone mentioned that this fixed the problem for him/her.

tstarky · 12-01-2011, 07:50 PM

I've tried that and it didn't work. I know it must be something totally simple...

DreamWriter · 12-01-2011, 07:59 PM

You may want to see if you can find any answers in these two threads that are discussing the topic:

Amazon Customer Discussions - KF: Low on Application Space? and KindleBoards - Running out of app space?. I hope that helps!

obsessed2 · 12-01-2011, 08:25 PM

There is only 1 GB of memory on the Fire partitioned for App storage.

System files take up about 2 GB, with the remainder going for Personal Storage (App Data - not the App itself, books, music, videos etc.).

Android tablets usually have two types of memory partitions, one formatted in Linux (EXT) for Apps (normally the smaller partition - internal storage) and one formatted FAT 32 for Data Storage (normally larger partition - external storage). The 4 GB of memory free on your Fire is external storage (FAT32 partition). Android can't execute Apps off of a FAT32 partition.

The Fire only supports installing 1 GB worth of Apps. With 144 Apps installed you have almost reached the Fire's App storage limit and will need to uninstall some unnecessary Apps to be able to install other Apps.

Note: FYI only. Android 2.2 and above tablets with an SD card slot can support Apps 2 SD using an external partitioned SD card, one partition being FAT32 and the other partition EXT. The larger partition is normally FAT32 and the smaller partition is EXT. The FAT32 partition is still used for universal access of data and the EXT partition is used by Android 2.2 and above for external App storage.

Blossom · 12-01-2011, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by obsessed2

There is only 1 GB of memory on the Fire partitioned for App storage.

System files take up about 2 GB, with the remainder going for Personal Storage (App Data - not the App itself, books, music, videos etc.).

Android tablets usually have two types of memory partitions, one formatted in Linux (EXT) for Apps (normally the smaller partition - internal storage) and one formatted FAT 32 for Data Storage (normally larger partition - external storage). The 4 GB of memory free on your Fire is external storage (FAT32 partition). Android can't execute Apps off of a FAT32 partition.

The Fire only supports installing 1 GB worth of Apps. With 144 Apps installed you have almost reached the Fire's App storage limit and will need to uninstall some unnecessary Apps to be able to install other Apps.

Note: FYI only. Android 2.2 and above tablets with an SD card slot can support Apps 2 SD using an external partitioned SD card, one partition being FAT32 and the other partition EXT. The larger partition is normally FAT32 and the smaller partition is EXT. The FAT32 partition is still used for universal access of data and the EXT partition is used by Android 2.2 and above for external App storage.

Couldn't of said it better myself. I haven't tried App2SD app on the Fire. I use it on my phone all the time. Another thing you can try is a cache cleaner program. I use History Eraser on the Fire from the App store. It works fine. You'd be surprise how big some of those caches gets.

tstarky · 12-01-2011, 09:28 PM

Dreamwriter, I had read the info at kindleboards but not the other one. It does make me feel better knowing I'm not alone!

Obsessed, that is the best explanation yet! It makes perfect sense other than the fact I can't figure out why they would allow so little space for apps on an android device. Seems someone wasn't thinking in the production/planning meetings. I've actually deleted several apps and I still can't install any more....unless they are from the amazon app store. Now why is that?

Blossom · 12-01-2011, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tstarky

Dreamwriter, I had read the info at kindleboards but not the other one. It does make me feel better knowing I'm not alone!

Obsessed, that is the best explanation yet! It makes perfect sense other than the fact I can't figure out why they would allow so little space for apps on an android device. Seems someone wasn't thinking in the production/planning meetings. I've actually deleted several apps and I still can't install any more....unless they are from the amazon app store. Now why is that?

Restart your Fire and try again. Try cleaning out the caches as well for more space.

tstarky · 12-01-2011, 09:32 PM

I use app2sd on my phone and really like it. I'm an app ho and really like to keep them all.

tstarky · 12-01-2011, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blossom

Restart your Fire and try again. Try cleaning out the caches as well for more space.

I did that but it won't hurt to try again.

Blossom · 12-01-2011, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tstarky

I use app2sd on my phone and really like it. I'm an app ho and really like to keep them all.

I can't. I have to be picky. My phone only has 256MB and with all the pre installed worthless apps only 100MB for my apps. so I only keep the ones I use. Apps2SD Pro works great in helping me keep my space down. I wish we could use it on the fire.

markkenzy · 12-01-2011, 09:43 PM

1 Gb for Apps...? Are you serious? I know there're some of android games do take more than 1Gb.. (like Dead space !?). So we couldn't install these games ?

Blossom · 12-01-2011, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markkenzy

1 Gb for Apps...? Are you serious? I know there're some of android games do take more than 1Gb.. (like Dead space !?). So we couldn't install these games ?

It depends on how the developer has the game data set up. Some install directly to SD Card or External memory as it's call in the Fire. I have 365MB of internal memory still which is where the apps normally go.

tstarky · 12-01-2011, 09:58 PM

Success! I deleted all cache and cleared data in the appmanager...for the third time. I attempted to install again before I shut it down and it didn't work. After the shutdown it worked perfectly and the notification has disappeared. I don't really know why the previous 2 shutdowns didn't do the trick. I'm happy now that I can continue my hoarding. LOL

DreamWriter · 12-01-2011, 10:17 PM

That's wonderful! So glad you were able to fix the problem!

12-01-2011, 07:04 PM	#1
tstarky Next mood swing...6 min Posts: 71 Karma: 500948 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kindle 3, Fire, PW	Low application space? I'm getting a message in the notification area "Low on Application space". I was installing an .apk from Dropbox and when I touch Install I get an error "Insufficient Application Storage" and an option to Manage Applications or Cancel. I went to the App store and was able to install one via Amazon. I tried again with side-loading and I still get the same errors. Anyone know what I can do about this? I have 144 apps (all are very important apps that I MUST have ). My device shows 4.39g of 6.54 available. Seems that should be plenty of space for my little 70 kb app I want to install.

12-01-2011, 08:25 PM	#5
obsessed2 Wizard Posts: 1,041 Karma: 4694121 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Virginia Device: Pocket Edge X 2 , Edge, gTab, Kindle Fire, Nextbook 7S	There is only 1 GB of memory on the Fire partitioned for App storage. System files take up about 2 GB, with the remainder going for Personal Storage (App Data - not the App itself, books, music, videos etc.). Android tablets usually have two types of memory partitions, one formatted in Linux (EXT) for Apps (normally the smaller partition - internal storage) and one formatted FAT 32 for Data Storage (normally larger partition - external storage). The 4 GB of memory free on your Fire is external storage (FAT32 partition). Android can't execute Apps off of a FAT32 partition. The Fire only supports installing 1 GB worth of Apps. With 144 Apps installed you have almost reached the Fire's App storage limit and will need to uninstall some unnecessary Apps to be able to install other Apps. Note: FYI only. Android 2.2 and above tablets with an SD card slot can support Apps 2 SD using an external partitioned SD card, one partition being FAT32 and the other partition EXT. The larger partition is normally FAT32 and the smaller partition is EXT. The FAT32 partition is still used for universal access of data and the EXT partition is used by Android 2.2 and above for external App storage. Last edited by obsessed2; 12-01-2011 at 08:35 PM.

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12-01-2011, 07:49 PM	#2
DreamWriter Books are brain food. Posts: 2,950 Karma: 4836916 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: U.S. Device: Paperwhite · Fire HD6/HD8/HD10 · Galaxy Tab A7	I have read in another forum that the same problem has been reported by others. One suggestion was to remove several apps and then reinstall them. Someone mentioned that this fixed the problem for him/her.

12-01-2011, 07:50 PM	#3
tstarky Next mood swing...6 min Posts: 71 Karma: 500948 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kindle 3, Fire, PW	I've tried that and it didn't work. I know it must be something totally simple...

12-01-2011, 07:59 PM	#4
DreamWriter Books are brain food. Posts: 2,950 Karma: 4836916 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: U.S. Device: Paperwhite · Fire HD6/HD8/HD10 · Galaxy Tab A7	You may want to see if you can find any answers in these two threads that are discussing the topic: Amazon Customer Discussions - KF: Low on Application Space? and KindleBoards - Running out of app space?. I hope that helps!

12-01-2011, 09:28 PM	#7
tstarky Next mood swing...6 min Posts: 71 Karma: 500948 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kindle 3, Fire, PW	Dreamwriter, I had read the info at kindleboards but not the other one. It does make me feel better knowing I'm not alone! Obsessed, that is the best explanation yet! It makes perfect sense other than the fact I can't figure out why they would allow so little space for apps on an android device. Seems someone wasn't thinking in the production/planning meetings. I've actually deleted several apps and I still can't install any more....unless they are from the amazon app store. Now why is that?

12-01-2011, 09:32 PM	#9
tstarky Next mood swing...6 min Posts: 71 Karma: 500948 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kindle 3, Fire, PW	I use app2sd on my phone and really like it. I'm an app ho and really like to keep them all.

12-01-2011, 09:43 PM	#12
markkenzy Enthusiast Posts: 25 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2011 Device: Nook simple touch, Kindle Fire	1 Gb for Apps...? Are you serious? I know there're some of android games do take more than 1Gb.. (like Dead space !?). So we couldn't install these games ?

12-01-2011, 09:58 PM	#14
tstarky Next mood swing...6 min Posts: 71 Karma: 500948 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kindle 3, Fire, PW	Success! I deleted all cache and cleared data in the appmanager...for the third time. I attempted to install again before I shut it down and it didn't work. After the shutdown it worked perfectly and the notification has disappeared. I don't really know why the previous 2 shutdowns didn't do the trick. I'm happy now that I can continue my hoarding. LOL

12-01-2011, 10:17 PM	#15
DreamWriter Books are brain food. Posts: 2,950 Karma: 4836916 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: U.S. Device: Paperwhite · Fire HD6/HD8/HD10 · Galaxy Tab A7	That's wonderful! So glad you were able to fix the problem!

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