why doesn't this have a frontlight by default yet?

hello · 09-29-2007, 12:21 PM

why doesn't the third version of a product use a frontlight like seen so much elsewhere? is it expensive? impossible? or is it plain marketing?

delphidb96 · 09-29-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hello

wh y doesn t the third version of a product use a frontlight like seen so much elsewhere? is it expensive? impossible? or is it plain marketing?

I can think of several reasons. First, if they try to implement a LightWedge style of frontlight, they'd have to license the tech from LightWedge. Second, if they don't use that tech, they'll have to invent their type - and that means whoever comes up with it can make all the others either have to come up with their *own* unique idea or pay a hefty licensing fee to that manufacturer.

Derek

MikeF74 · 09-29-2007, 02:30 PM

Can such a lighting system be used with the larger surface area of the 800x600 readers without an obscene drain on the battery? I would imagine they would have to pump up the light output since the center of the screen would be much further away on a bigger device.

delphidb96 · 09-29-2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeF74

Can such a lighting system be used with the larger surface area of the 800x600 readers without an obscene drain on the battery? I would imagine they would have to pump up the light output since the center of the screen would be much further away on a bigger device.

Which is why I believe an after-market LightWedge-like add-on would be a better idea - or add a separate switch on the reader to *TURN OFF* a built-in front-light.

Derek

MikeF74 · 09-29-2007, 02:54 PM

well, obviously it would need its own switch. It would be silly to keep it on at all times.

delphidb96 · 09-29-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeF74

well, obviously it would need its own switch. It would be silly to keep it on at all times.

Maybe to the likes of you and me... But I've seen some *STRANGE* concept designs! I wouldn't put it past a manufacturer to 'forget' that *minor* detail.

Derek

hello · 09-29-2007, 03:46 PM

ver y curiou s if the cybook people are reading over here to join.

hello · 09-29-2007, 04:35 PM

i thin k it should be made so that when its sunny the light goes *ON* and when its really dark (but only when its *REALLY* dark), the light stays out. but that's in terms of a concept model only ofcoarse.

DrMoze · 09-29-2007, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hello

i thin k it should be made so that when its sunny the light goes *ON* and when its really dark (but only when its *REALLY* dark), the light stays out. but that's in terms of a concept model only ofcoarse.

Isn't that backwards?

delphidb96 · 09-30-2007, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by hello

i thin k it should be made so that when its sunny the light goes *ON* and when its really dark (but only when its *REALLY* dark), the light stays out. but that's in terms of a concept model only ofcoarse.

That is *SOOooo* Funny! That will be the model marketed to our vampire customers!

Yes, those of us who are 'mere mortals' will, by default, buy the other version.

Derek

guguy · 09-30-2007, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hello

i thin k it should be made so that when its sunny the light goes *ON* and when its really dark (but only when its *REALLY* dark), the light stays out. but that's in terms of a concept model only ofcoarse.

Let me guess... aren't you a Microsoft engineer?

THJahar · 10-01-2007, 12:48 PM

<rant> I vote NEVER put a light on any eink device EVER.
I'm tired of this bleeding argument. I mean seriously we've been reading books that *ahem* don't have a light source for centuries.
I mean for FSM's sake, if you are one of the very small minority that need to read in the dark with out turning on another light source, please go out and buy a bloody lightwedge or torch.</rant>

MikeF74 · 10-01-2007, 01:01 PM

THJahar,

While I don't much care about the lighting issue, it is obviously rather important to some. Yes, we've been reading printed books for 555 years now without built-in lighting. Then again, we've also been reading on some form of paper as well. By your logic, there's no need for an E-Ink device either. Progress isn't a bad thing. I think lighting will be a very nice feature for 3rd generation reader-sized devices.

NatCh · 10-01-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by THJahar

I'm tired of this bleeding argument.

That's the reason I don't much read the threads on DRM anymore (or the threads that have turned into such discussions). Others want to have them, let 'em, I just don't read 'em.

anotherchance · 10-01-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by THJahar

<rant> I vote NEVER put a light on any eink device EVER.
I'm tired of this bleeding argument. I mean seriously we've been reading books that *ahem* don't have a light source for centuries.
I mean for FSM's sake, if you are one of the very small minority that need to read in the dark with out turning on another light source, please go out and buy a bloody lightwedge or torch.</rant>

Give that man a medal!

09-29-2007, 12:21 PM	#1
hello Custom User Title Posts: 55 Karma: 26 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Yes Device: Nokia 5130	why doesn't this have a frontlight by default yet? why doesn't the third version of a product use a frontlight like seen so much elsewhere? is it expensive? impossible? or is it plain marketing?

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09-29-2007, 02:30 PM	#3
MikeF74 Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 28 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Sony PRS-505	Can such a lighting system be used with the larger surface area of the 800x600 readers without an obscene drain on the battery? I would imagine they would have to pump up the light output since the center of the screen would be much further away on a bigger device.

09-29-2007, 02:54 PM	#5
MikeF74 Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 28 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Sony PRS-505	well, obviously it would need its own switch. It would be silly to keep it on at all times.

09-29-2007, 03:46 PM	#7
hello Custom User Title Posts: 55 Karma: 26 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Yes Device: Nokia 5130	ver y curiou s if the cybook people are reading over here to join.

09-29-2007, 04:35 PM	#8
hello Custom User Title Posts: 55 Karma: 26 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Yes Device: Nokia 5130	i thin k it should be made so that when its sunny the light goes ON and when its really dark (but only when its REALLY dark), the light stays out. but that's in terms of a concept model only ofcoarse.

10-01-2007, 12:48 PM	#12
THJahar Zealot Posts: 107 Karma: 58 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Leicester, UK Device: Jinke V2 Prototype	<rant> I vote NEVER put a light on any eink device EVER. I'm tired of this bleeding argument. I mean seriously we've been reading books that ahem don't have a light source for centuries. I mean for FSM's sake, if you are one of the very small minority that need to read in the dark with out turning on another light source, please go out and buy a bloody lightwedge or torch.</rant>

10-01-2007, 01:01 PM	#13
MikeF74 Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 28 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Sony PRS-505	THJahar, While I don't much care about the lighting issue, it is obviously rather important to some. Yes, we've been reading printed books for 555 years now without built-in lighting. Then again, we've also been reading on some form of paper as well. By your logic, there's no need for an E-Ink device either. Progress isn't a bad thing. I think lighting will be a very nice feature for 3rd generation reader-sized devices.

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