I am asking too much?

[trocchietto]

An eink color ereader, 8 inches, with Dutch dictionary
enough to read comics in landscape, portable

So far the only I know with a Dutch dictionary is the Sony line, but they do not have color.

[ProfCrash]

Yup, you are.

Color e-ink is going to be a while. The varients that are out now are not suppose to be that great.

6 inches is the norma. Very few e-readers have been well received outside that size by the masses. Yes there are the folks who like the Kindle DXG or the Sony 350 and 650 but they are a minority amoung e-reader lovers.

Most people think that anything over 6 inches is not portable.

Dutch is the real reach. It should be available for folks to chose but I am going to guess that they are more focused on languages spoken by larger groups of individuals.

[trocchietto]

eh eh, super clear. well maybe soon sony or Kindle will go out with a model with color. And I really hope that kindle this time will implement a Dutch van dale dictionary, since this has been the main reason why I did not chose kindle despite I buy a lot of amazon books.
well 6 inches could be fine, if they do a screen a little higher, so that landscape mode works as a charm, and cut scroll perfect the pages with a landscape mode

[ProfCrash]

I would not count on a color version any time soon. Amazon has the Fire, only sold in the US, right now. It is a 7 inch LCD device that can be used as an e-reader but is mainly a small tablet.

Color e-ink has proven to be difficult to build. Many companies have been working on it for a while. Most of the reports come back that the screen refresh rate is really slow and that the colors are not that good. There is one e-reader using a color screen right now but I read that it not really color e-ink but that it somehow used filters.

Given the cost of developing a color e-ink screen, the price of a color e-ink reader is likely to be pretty high. Amazon, Nook, and Kobo sell tablets for $200 right now. I am guessing that a color e-ink screen would be over $200. That is probably going to be deemed too high when you can buy tablets that are a bit bigger, do more, and cost less.

Pure speculation on my part. I could be wrong.

As for the Dutch, as I understand it, you can buy and add your own dictionary to the Kindle.

[trocchietto]

Originally Posted by ProfCrash

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Pure speculation on my part. I could be wrong.

As for the Dutch, as I understand it, you can buy and add your own dictionary to the Kindle.

there is a kindle van dale, or decent dutch eng dic for Kindle? as far as I know 2 month ago, there wasn't. so if you can find please let me know, because I think that is only sony that has a van dale dictionary.
Also I would say that having a great samsung super amoled 7.7 pt6800 buying another screen as kindle fire, with a lower screen quality and backlighted is not the solution I am looking for. When the weather is good, I would like to read my comics and play chess in the open air, I can do this only with e ink color readers that also do not makes me nervous for the lenght of their battery.

I did not know that the Ectaco jetcolor that should be the only one you mention was not an eink technology, it looks quite sharp anyway in the reviews, also if a little expensive, but i mean people that buy ereader often can buy also a 700 eur phone, so really the cost has a marginal aspect if you can offer such an incredible technology as the eink color at a reasonable price, also if not under the 200 eur.
I am not sure but I bought the sony prs650 at 250 EU or so, and still I retain it was worthing my investment, now I am just deciding for a nook or the new sony as the amazon kindle has not a decent dutch dictionary nor inbuilted neither available.

[ProfCrash]

The Nook will not have a Dutch dictoionary, it is sold only in the US. There have been warranty issues for people who have purchased Nooks and had problems with them outside the US. You can get one but I would go with the Sony over the Nook. I have no idea about a Dutch dictionary for Kindle, I have never looked.

A lot of folks have been asking for color e-ink on this board and I have not seen too many posts from folks that they bought the Ectaco, probably because the retailer is not well known and it is far too expensive.

I agree with you about LCD vs E-ink, I prefer reading on e-ink especially out doors. That does not mean that we are not in the minority. It also doesn't mean that people are going to be willing to pay $300 or more dollars for a color e-ink reader. I don't need a color e-ink reader. Most of what I read is published in black and white. I would guess that is true for most folks. The subset of the e-ink market that we really benefit from a color screen is pretty small.

Keep in mind that in the US, half of the country does not read even 1 book a year. I don't remember the exact number, but I think it is something like 30% of US citizens read five or more books a year. That is who is buying e-readers. So you take a small percentage of the population and target them for a very specific device. Now you take an even smaller percentage, people who read comics and magazines, and market an color e-ink reader to them. The price is going to be higher then the regular e-reader.

Now toss in that many people who read comics and magazines have been buying tablets, IPads, Fires, Nook Tablets, Kobo Vox and ask them if they are will to own a $250 to $900 device with an LCD screen to read their comics and magazines in color and a $300 (probably more expensive then that) color e-ink device so they can read outdoors and watch what happens.

Amazon has already seen the niche e-ink model fail with the DX, a larger reader meant for academic and professionals who need PDF's, do you think they are in a hurry to try another niche e-reader product that is going to be expensive?

It is possible that people read more in Europe, I would guess that the numbers are not all that different to be honest, but the market for a color e-ink screen is going to be smaller. It cannot afford to be more expensive then the lower priced tablets and there is no way I can see that is going to happen. The research and development has been too expensive to be able to find a way to produce a marketable good that would sell under $200.

[trocchietto]

eh eh thank you for the reply,

[trocchietto]

eh eh thank you for the reply,
also if I am defined a financial guy, a lot of supermanagers consider me as a kind of genius of the marketing( I am serious not kidding, I do not want to appear immodest, but well it is true, I have also received a lot of offers but for ethical reasons I do not see my self in the mktg, in persuading people using some tools), what you say is really well known in the strategic field as segmentation of the market to find profitability in the payback, so I have to agree with you about the fact that we could be on a first glance a kind of niche that could not justify investments and scale economies to make the prices of the eink color affordable.
one of my favorite marketing guys said that a company that does not change is died, and also the recent trend of every corporation is the continuous improvement of their product, I think is a fact that we can assist always at continous functionality in the new products.Then that there functionalities are not really at the edge of the technology and that in certain markets the cuncurrency is... particular this is another thing.
at the moment few people read book, this is true, but how many people would buy , or would start to read because they can have an ereader then they can see porno images, little movies, play chess or other androids games, and ..eventually read a comic?There is still nobody that see a blue ocean strategy, despite there is some hunger deadly shark competitor?
believe me I am a kind of quite smart guy in forecast the tendencies, think that just I proposed in a forum from asus to do a linux little pc.. just 5 months before the EEPC. I am quite sure that ..if the price could remain affordable a lot of...let'say "jerk cluster" would have a really light, portable and long battery machine as an eink color, as also the new smartphones they just sell in certain area because of the status to have a kind of similar thing.

the fact you point about people that are buying tablets already is definetely an important and real statement. I live in Amsterdam a really cool city but still also if there is not the sun() still every saturday morning I go to take a capuccino out, I cannot read easily with my -state-of-art- technology- samsung 7.7 super amoled screen, and if there is some sun, I cannot definetely use my phone. Let alone how I am worried that if i do not deabilitate my wifi i won't arrive at the evening with the battery.Then..I would think that outside North Europa there are big markets in the South as Italy from Florence down, Greece, Spain, Istanbul, south afrika, a lot of north afrikan cities, mexico and US were the sun is always present and the screens are far to be satisfactory, at least you do not love yourself as much as you like to see your face reflected on the screen... in this particular time span... there is nothing......in the market... a big market

Of course to dominate this kind of market you need to use a different approach, not the one of the accademic one made by amazon, that I remeber, sometimes accademic are quite reluctant to IT, they are also fetish and love normal paper, trying to be conservative, old way fashioned target, not attractred by the fanfare of the world, especially people accademic that are in the litterature ( medical, economy engineering could be different) Then also we should consider that this kind of accademic people do not study in the bars as only genius do (people in the myers brigg as steve jobs), kind of innovator enthusiastic that need to feed themselves outside the libraries.
see what a crazy reader have to do persuade corporations to implement new technologies..