Which Ones DON'T have an internet browser? Don't require a bookstore account?

emellaich · 01-25-2011, 02:21 PM

Can you remind me which ones do not have an internet browser. I have had a query from an organization that wants a reader with no internet browser. They also want a reader that's not tied to an account (ie, no Amazon account) since their real purpose is to load internal doc's and not to read books. They don't want employees purchasing/loading books.

MLH

Pookeysgirl · 01-25-2011, 02:29 PM

The Kobo doesn't have an internet browser and you can sideload documents without having to use the desktop app.

3dusty · 01-25-2011, 05:11 PM

I have a Pocketbook 360 and it doesn't have connectivity or tied to a store. It's books are stored in folders so easy to load.

bill_mchale · 01-25-2011, 05:30 PM

Well, the Sony PRS-350 and PRS-650 are probably the most easily accessible readers that are not connected to a book store by at least wifi. The Kobo and Nook both are tied to their respective stores.

There are a number of the smaller players who lack wifi on at least some of their models. That being said, with the exception of the Jetbook Mini, I can't think of any readers that cannot be registered with Adobe (or in the case of the Kindle with Amazon). And no book reader will prevent a user from side loading DRM free books.

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Bill

susan_cassidy · 01-25-2011, 06:18 PM

If the employees can't load books, then how will the documents get on there? I'm not sure that their expectations are reasonable. What's the use of having a reading device, if not to read things? I suppose they could just forbid employees to load anything "unauthorized", but why?

Dulin's Books · 01-25-2011, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by emellaich

Can you remind me which ones do not have an internet browser. I have had a query from an organization that wants a reader with no internet browser. They also want a reader that's not tied to an account (ie, no Amazon account) since their real purpose is to load internal doc's and not to read books. They don't want employees purchasing/loading books.

MLH

There are many possibilities. I have access to quite a few. how many are they thinking about and what size display? Would they like it "branded" with company/organization logo and start up screen?

GA Russell · 01-25-2011, 06:59 PM

Don't forget the Ectaco jetBook and jetBook Lite.

emellaich · 01-26-2011, 09:07 PM

So, I don't really have permission to talk directly about them. And right now I'm talking through a third party. Hopefully I will get a direct contact soon.

The general concept is that they want to distribute policy manuals to many employees. They don't want them used to read books. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they would have conflicts/problems with employees making a personal use of an organization device.

Secondly, the point about 'no bookstore' is not just that they don't need the bookstore. They want to make sure that the unit does not need to be registered with a bookstore account so that employees can't/won't run up charges or purchase unauthorized books.

Thanks for all of your input so far.

p.s. My opinion is that once I talk to them, the right answer will be that they do need an internet browser. Consider the way that you can download MR books on the Kindle by going to a MR web page. Similarly, it appears to me that this would be the correct way to sideload the device. Assuming they have many of these, how would you get up to date manuals on all of them. It appears to me that access through a web page to up-to-date stuff might be the best solution.

Dulin's Books · 01-26-2011, 11:04 PM

quite easy to put an icon that gets clicked and takes you to a specific website without giving the user the ability to go anywhere else on the net.

minus hackers and rooters of course

jehane · 01-27-2011, 12:00 PM

There are plenty of devices without wireless connectivity. Sony and Pocketbook are the bigger names, plus the old Kobo if it's still available. None of them have be registered to a bookstore. I imagine there is something that could be done in the software to disable the connectivity in any device.

Sideloading is usually done by connecting the device to a computer by cable, and copying the files across as you would normally. Distributing updates would therefore require users to connect their devices and download the updates manually. I suspect that your client wants the ability to automatically send updates? Actually, they could possibly use the sync feature present on most systems, and modify it to ensure that it only syncs one way (ie from the server to the device). This might also stop personal use, as it possibly could be set up to delete the unrecognised files from the device. This would still require the physical connection to the computer - but since they mostly have to recharged via the computer anyway it shouldn't be a problem.

Sweetpea · 01-28-2011, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by emellaich

The general concept is that they want to distribute policy manuals to many employees. They don't want them used to read books. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they would have conflicts/problems with employees making a personal use of an organization device.

There is absolutely no device that would fit this. A wireless connection or a wired connection, what's the difference? Unless they have no access to any computer with an USB cable... You would also need at least a device without any external memory, because I could put books on a SD card and read books on my Sony.

01-25-2011, 02:21 PM	#1
emellaich Wizard Posts: 1,101 Karma: 4388403 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Palm>Ebookman>IPaq>Axim>Cybook>Kndl2>IPAD>Kndl3SO>Voyager>Oasis	Which Ones DON'T have an internet browser? Don't require a bookstore account? Can you remind me which ones do not have an internet browser. I have had a query from an organization that wants a reader with no internet browser. They also want a reader that's not tied to an account (ie, no Amazon account) since their real purpose is to load internal doc's and not to read books. They don't want employees purchasing/loading books. MLH

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Pookeysgirl Wizard Posts: 1,705 Karma: 12696746 Join Date: May 2010 Device: K3, Kobo Mini	The Kobo doesn't have an internet browser and you can sideload documents without having to use the desktop app.

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3dusty Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 528520 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Arkansas Device: Google Nexus 7	I have a Pocketbook 360 and it doesn't have connectivity or tied to a store. It's books are stored in folders so easy to load.

01-25-2011, 05:30 PM	#4
bill_mchale Wizard Posts: 1,451 Karma: 1550000 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Device: Nook Simple Touch, HPC Evo 4G LTE	Well, the Sony PRS-350 and PRS-650 are probably the most easily accessible readers that are not connected to a book store by at least wifi. The Kobo and Nook both are tied to their respective stores. There are a number of the smaller players who lack wifi on at least some of their models. That being said, with the exception of the Jetbook Mini, I can't think of any readers that cannot be registered with Adobe (or in the case of the Kindle with Amazon). And no book reader will prevent a user from side loading DRM free books. -- Bill

01-25-2011, 06:18 PM	#5
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	If the employees can't load books, then how will the documents get on there? I'm not sure that their expectations are reasonable. What's the use of having a reading device, if not to read things? I suppose they could just forbid employees to load anything "unauthorized", but why?

01-25-2011, 06:59 PM	#7
GA Russell Argos win Grey Cup! Posts: 7,678 Karma: 31487351 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC Device: Paperwhite, Kindles 10 & 4 and jetBook Lite	Don't forget the Ectaco jetBook and jetBook Lite.

01-26-2011, 09:07 PM	#8
emellaich Wizard Posts: 1,101 Karma: 4388403 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Palm>Ebookman>IPaq>Axim>Cybook>Kndl2>IPAD>Kndl3SO>Voyager>Oasis	So, I don't really have permission to talk directly about them. And right now I'm talking through a third party. Hopefully I will get a direct contact soon. The general concept is that they want to distribute policy manuals to many employees. They don't want them used to read books. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they would have conflicts/problems with employees making a personal use of an organization device. Secondly, the point about 'no bookstore' is not just that they don't need the bookstore. They want to make sure that the unit does not need to be registered with a bookstore account so that employees can't/won't run up charges or purchase unauthorized books. Thanks for all of your input so far. p.s. My opinion is that once I talk to them, the right answer will be that they do need an internet browser. Consider the way that you can download MR books on the Kindle by going to a MR web page. Similarly, it appears to me that this would be the correct way to sideload the device. Assuming they have many of these, how would you get up to date manuals on all of them. It appears to me that access through a web page to up-to-date stuff might be the best solution.

01-26-2011, 11:04 PM	#9
Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	quite easy to put an icon that gets clicked and takes you to a specific website without giving the user the ability to go anywhere else on the net. minus hackers and rooters of course

01-27-2011, 12:00 PM	#10
jehane Book addict Posts: 441 Karma: 2650464 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Antarctica/Australia/Ohio Device: Sony PRS-300/T1/Asus TF101	There are plenty of devices without wireless connectivity. Sony and Pocketbook are the bigger names, plus the old Kobo if it's still available. None of them have be registered to a bookstore. I imagine there is something that could be done in the software to disable the connectivity in any device. Sideloading is usually done by connecting the device to a computer by cable, and copying the files across as you would normally. Distributing updates would therefore require users to connect their devices and download the updates manually. I suspect that your client wants the ability to automatically send updates? Actually, they could possibly use the sync feature present on most systems, and modify it to ensure that it only syncs one way (ie from the server to the device). This might also stop personal use, as it possibly could be set up to delete the unrecognised files from the device. This would still require the physical connection to the computer - but since they mostly have to recharged via the computer anyway it shouldn't be a problem.

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