[Old thread] Kindle 3 and calibre

aessedai44 · 08-20-2010, 12:24 AM

Hi

I have had a PRS-505 for a while now and it has had lots of use and seen better days. I'm now in the market for a new e-reader and I'm considering the kindle 3, when I've seen some hands-on reviews obviously. I use calibre to transfer books at the moment and I understand that amazon only like you to use their books from their store. If I transfer the books that I currently have on calibre to the kindle will amazon be able to detect that they are not from their store via the wifi connection, especially since the books on the kindle 3 supposedly will be backed up at amazon, and will this cause problems for me?
I don't won't to even consider the kindle if this is the case.

Thanks in advance

Paul

kovidgoyal · 08-20-2010, 12:31 AM

No, you wont have any problems (at least you wont if the Kindle 3 is like the Kindle 2), if not, who knows.

btobw · 08-25-2010, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aessedai44

Hi

If I transfer the books that I currently have on calibre to the kindle will amazon be able to detect that they are not from their store via the wifi connection, especially since the books on the kindle 3 supposedly will be backed up at amazon, and will this cause problems for me?
I don't won't to even consider the kindle if this is the case.

Paul

Books from sources other than Amazon are not backed up at Amazon. When you buy a book from Amazon, a copy is available via the 'Manage your Kindle' on the Amazon web site. If that book is not already on your Kindle, it is also available from the archives on the Kindle itself. So the 'backup' does not mean that files are transferred from your Kindle to Amazon; books from other sources have to be backed up locally.

I believe Amazon identifies books using their ASIN in the metadata. Books from other sources will not have an ASIN and consequently, Amazon won't know what they are.

btobw · 08-27-2010, 12:57 AM

I just received my thread subscription email and noticed that I missed this statement:

Quote:

Originally Posted by aessedai44

Hi

I understand that amazon only like you to use their books from their store.

Paul

Whilst Amazon may, as a commercial entity, prefer that you buy books from them

, they in no way restrict non-DRM books from other sources as long as they are in the right format (mobi, prc, pdf, txt, html with a .txt extension).

Non-Amazon books are treated exactly the same as Amazon books, except they are not on the Amazon cloud and annotations and bookmarks are not backed up on the Amazon server. They can be added to collections, searched, annotated, highlighted etc etc.

My K2 (and soon K3) has heaps of non-drm books from other sources, many of them free. I use Calibre for converting to mobi if necessary and then transferring to the Kindle - love it!

Agama · 08-27-2010, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by btobw

My K2 (and soon K3) has heaps of non-drm books from other sources, many of them free. I use Calibre for converting to mobi if necessary and then transferring to the Kindle - love it!

Have you converted any ePubs to mobi for your K2? I use a Sony PRS300 with ePubs, (non-DRM), but I am considering replacing it with a K3. Does calibre keep the formatting and TOC when converting ePub to mobi? Are there any conversion issues to be wary of?

kathyfitz · 08-27-2010, 07:48 PM

I have converted many epubs to mobi and not noticed a problem with the formatting or TOC. It may not be perfect, but I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary. Most of my books are novels, I don't have a lot of experience with other types of books.

btobw · 08-28-2010, 12:23 AM

kathyfitz pretty much answered for me, and it sounds as though she has more experience than I do. Calibre has various options for detecting and linking TOC, but I don't usually fiddle with them. I've not had any problems if the epub is good to begin with.

Agama · 08-28-2010, 03:10 AM

Thanks for the info. My ePubs are mainly non-fiction books/novels and are all of high quality, so it sounds as though conversion to mobi should work well.

Sydney's Mom · 08-28-2010, 04:31 PM

The only problems I have have had is with pdfs. I'm sure I could fiddle with the settings, but I just downloaded mobipocket pro (free) and convert there. Then I import both into Calibre.

zra · 08-31-2010, 12:32 PM

I got my Kindle 3 yesterday, it works better than my Kindle 2 in every way so far. Seems to work with Calibre in exactly the same way. I have no trouble loading .mobi and .prc non DRM content.

itimpi · 08-31-2010, 02:29 PM

A question for which I have not found a clear answer - can the Kindle 3 download books directly from the Calibre Content Server (i.e. over WiFi/3G). I know it can do it via USB or email but I am interested in being able to pick up a book on-demand from Calibre when on the move and away from my PC?

kovidgoyal · 08-31-2010, 02:30 PM

See http://calibre-ebook.com/user_manual...reading-device

itimpi · 08-31-2010, 02:33 PM

I read that page!

It talks about Browsing via the Content server. It does not tell me whether I can then click on a download link (typically for a .mobi file), run the download and then immediately start reading the book. I have found lots of suggestions that it might be possible, but not an explicit statement that it works.

kovidgoyal · 08-31-2010, 02:35 PM

when you browse using the content server, you get clickable links and IIRC the Kindle opens links pointing to ebook files in its ebook viewer.

itimpi · 08-31-2010, 02:37 PM

... and are they then available for off-line reading just as if I had transfered them via USB or email?

I have asked some people I know have ordered K3 to check for me but I thought the accumulated wisdom here would probably know the definitive answer.

My Sony has just ha its screen smashed so I am eyeing the Kindle 3 as a replacement, but I definitely want over-the-air download of books from my own server as one of the supported features. I guess I am also interested if it would work over both WiFi and 3G or only one of them.

08-20-2010, 12:24 AM	#1
aessedai44 Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: kindle 3	[Old thread] Kindle 3 and calibre Hi I have had a PRS-505 for a while now and it has had lots of use and seen better days. I'm now in the market for a new e-reader and I'm considering the kindle 3, when I've seen some hands-on reviews obviously. I use calibre to transfer books at the moment and I understand that amazon only like you to use their books from their store. If I transfer the books that I currently have on calibre to the kindle will amazon be able to detect that they are not from their store via the wifi connection, especially since the books on the kindle 3 supposedly will be backed up at amazon, and will this cause problems for me? I don't won't to even consider the kindle if this is the case. Thanks in advance Paul

08-31-2010, 02:37 PM	#15
itimpi Wizard Posts: 4,553 Karma: 950151 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: Sony PRS-950, iphone/ipad (Marvin/iBooks/QuickReader)	... and are they then available for off-line reading just as if I had transfered them via USB or email? I have asked some people I know have ordered K3 to check for me but I thought the accumulated wisdom here would probably know the definitive answer. My Sony has just ha its screen smashed so I am eyeing the Kindle 3 as a replacement, but I definitely want over-the-air download of books from my own server as one of the supported features. I guess I am also interested if it would work over both WiFi and 3G or only one of them. Last edited by itimpi; 08-31-2010 at 02:41 PM.

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08-20-2010, 12:31 AM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,158 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	No, you wont have any problems (at least you wont if the Kindle 3 is like the Kindle 2), if not, who knows.

08-27-2010, 07:48 PM	#6
kathyfitz Electronics Whore Posts: 115 Karma: 162 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Mountains of Southern California Device: Kindle Paperwhite, iPad, iPad mini, iPhone5, Kindle3	I have converted many epubs to mobi and not noticed a problem with the formatting or TOC. It may not be perfect, but I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary. Most of my books are novels, I don't have a lot of experience with other types of books.

08-28-2010, 12:23 AM	#7
btobw Member Posts: 20 Karma: 9448 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Kindle 2 & 3	kathyfitz pretty much answered for me, and it sounds as though she has more experience than I do. Calibre has various options for detecting and linking TOC, but I don't usually fiddle with them. I've not had any problems if the epub is good to begin with.

08-28-2010, 03:10 AM	#8
Agama Guru Posts: 776 Karma: 2751519 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: UK Device: PW2, Nexus7	Thanks for the info. My ePubs are mainly non-fiction books/novels and are all of high quality, so it sounds as though conversion to mobi should work well.

08-28-2010, 04:31 PM	#9
Sydney's Mom Wizard Posts: 2,896 Karma: 6995721 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Idaho, on the side of a mountain Device: Kindle Oasis, Fire 3d Gen and 5th Gen and Samsung Tab S	The only problems I have have had is with pdfs. I'm sure I could fiddle with the settings, but I just downloaded mobipocket pro (free) and convert there. Then I import both into Calibre.

08-31-2010, 12:32 PM	#10
zra Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Kindle 3	I got my Kindle 3 yesterday, it works better than my Kindle 2 in every way so far. Seems to work with Calibre in exactly the same way. I have no trouble loading .mobi and .prc non DRM content.

08-31-2010, 02:29 PM	#11
itimpi Wizard Posts: 4,553 Karma: 950151 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: Sony PRS-950, iphone/ipad (Marvin/iBooks/QuickReader)	A question for which I have not found a clear answer - can the Kindle 3 download books directly from the Calibre Content Server (i.e. over WiFi/3G). I know it can do it via USB or email but I am interested in being able to pick up a book on-demand from Calibre when on the move and away from my PC?

08-31-2010, 02:30 PM	#12
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,158 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	See http://calibre-ebook.com/user_manual...reading-device

08-31-2010, 02:33 PM	#13
itimpi Wizard Posts: 4,553 Karma: 950151 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: Sony PRS-950, iphone/ipad (Marvin/iBooks/QuickReader)	I read that page! It talks about Browsing via the Content server. It does not tell me whether I can then click on a download link (typically for a .mobi file), run the download and then immediately start reading the book. I have found lots of suggestions that it might be possible, but not an explicit statement that it works.

08-31-2010, 02:35 PM	#14
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,158 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	when you browse using the content server, you get clickable links and IIRC the Kindle opens links pointing to ebook files in its ebook viewer.

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