Confused about @free.kindle.com

speedlever · 12-09-2010, 01:03 AM

When I go into my account and manage my Kindle, the only email address I see is @Kindle.com. Is the @free.Kindle.com address outomagically generated from the @Kindle.com address?

I don't see @free.Kindle.com listed anywhere on Amazon.com except under Your Personal Document Charge Limit.

What address should I plug into Calibre?

TheKindleWorm · 12-09-2010, 01:15 AM

Your @free.Kindle.com address is exactly the same as your @kindle.com address except for the addition of free.

For example: if your kindle address is: kin1@kindle.com then your free kindle address would be: kin1@free.Kindle.com

It is a bit confusing I know and I think Amazon could have done this better somehow.

I can't remember if I use my free address or the standard with Calibre. But the essential thing to know is that unless you are receiving documents via 3G - there should be no charge. That said I do limit my Personal Document Limit on the Manage your Kindle page to zero. That way I won't get charged unless I choose to change it.

Bookworm_Girl · 12-09-2010, 01:16 AM

You have a K3 wi-fi only, right? There is only the @kindle.com email. The @free.kindle.com is for the 3G + Wi-fi model. They pay money to transfer data over 3G wireless by default and the free email address gives them an alternative for Wi-fi transfers. Hope that Helps!

GoversAU · 12-09-2010, 01:18 AM

I recently plugged the @kindle.com address into Calibre and got charged 99c for each item I sent via 3G. I now use the @free.kindle.com address and download the item to my Kindle via my PC.

speedlever · 12-09-2010, 01:19 AM

Yes, wifi K3 only. I was just trying to understand the free.Kindle.com business. I didn't know if you could set that as a different name than the @kindle.com address. Looks like they're linked.

Bookworm_Girl · 12-09-2010, 01:26 AM

I have the K3 wi-fi only model too. I use @kindle.com for my email address with calibre.

TheKindleWorm · 12-09-2010, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedlever

Yes, wifi K3 only. I was just trying to understand the free.Kindle.com business. I didn't know if you could set that as a different name than the @kindle.com address. Looks like they're linked.

No you can't set them (free email and standard kindle email) with a different name - they are most definitely linked. The name at the start is Amazon's way of identifying which Kindle the data is being sent to. Bearing in mind that some people have more than 1 Kindle.

speedlever · 12-09-2010, 11:13 AM

I went to manage my kindle account and have my "name@kindle.com" set.

I added that into Calibre and used my regular email address as the send from address, but get an error message when I run a test. Perhaps I set it up wrong?

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "site-packages\calibre\gui2\wizard\send_email.py", line 111, in test_email_settings
File "site-packages\calibre\utils\smtp.py", line 91, in sendmail
File "site-packages\calibre\utils\smtp.py", line 83, in sendmail_direct
IOError: Failed to send mail: SMTPServerDisconnected('Connection unexpectedly closed',)

Log:
Find mail exchanger for kindle.com
connect: ('smtp-fw-4101.amazon.com.', 25)
connect: (25, 'smtp-fw-4101.amazon.com.')
reply: '554-smtp-fw-4101.amazon.com\r\n'
reply: '554 SBRS score too low: http://www.senderbase.org/\r\n'
reply: retcode (554); Msg: smtp-fw-4101.amazon.com
SBRS score too low: http://www.senderbase.org/
connect: smtp-fw-4101.amazon.com
SBRS score too low: http://www.senderbase.org/
send: 'ehlo [192.168.1.108]\r\n'
connect: ('smtp-fw-9101.amazon.com.', 25)
connect: (25, 'smtp-fw-9101.amazon.com.')
reply: '554-smtp-fw-9101.amazon.com\r\n'
reply: '554 SBRS score too low: http://www.senderbase.org/\r\n'
reply: retcode (554); Msg: smtp-fw-9101.amazon.com
SBRS score too low: http://www.senderbase.org/
connect: smtp-fw-9101.amazon.com
SBRS score too low: http://www.senderbase.org/
send: 'ehlo [192.168.1.108]\r\n'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "site-packages\calibre\utils\smtp.py", line 77, in sendmail_direct
File "site-packages\calibre\utils\smtplib.py", line 704, in sendmail
File "site-packages\calibre\utils\smtplib.py", line 528, in ehlo_or_helo_if_needed
File "site-packages\calibre\utils\smtplib.py", line 401, in ehlo
File "site-packages\calibre\utils\smtplib.py", line 358, in getreply
SMTPServerDisconnected: Connection unexpectedly closed

Baldrake · 12-09-2010, 11:21 AM

You probably already know this, but under the "Manage my Kindle" page at amazon.com, there is a section headed "Your Kindle Approved E-mail List" where you need to add your email address(es). This is a whitelist; everything else is rejected as spam.

speedlever · 12-09-2010, 11:27 AM

Hmm. I already had my send from address there. Do I need to put my @kindle.com address there too? That strikes me as rather obvious.. but what do I know?

speedlever · 12-09-2010, 12:54 PM

I listed my send from email address and my kindle.com email address in the white list and still get those errors.

It has to be something simple.

Edit: If my K3 is not operational yet, those messages will just queue, right?

DiapDealer · 12-09-2010, 01:06 PM

Quote:

I listed my send from email address and my kindle.com email address in the white list and still get those errors.

It has to be something simple.

You might try the Calibre Forum, there was a recent thread where people were having trouble with Calibre communicationg with their smtp server.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=105784

EDIT: Actually, this thread seems to cover your specific issue.

speedlever · 12-09-2010, 01:17 PM

Thanks DD. I do have a gmail account. But I prefer to use my rr.com email. I'm surprised that Amazon thinks this is spam. They certainly don't have any trouble taking my online orders and sending me confirmation of orders, etc. on it.

DMSmillie · 12-09-2010, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bookworm_Girl

You have a K3 wi-fi only, right? There is only the @kindle.com email. The @free.kindle.com is for the 3G + Wi-fi model. They pay money to transfer data over 3G wireless by default and the free email address gives them an alternative for Wi-fi transfers. Hope that Helps!

Just for info, the @free.kindle.com address does work even if you only have the WiFi K3 (though I know now that it isn't necessary to use it). Before I realised that you only got charged if 3G was used, I was using the @free.kindle.com address to send stuff to my K3 (WiFi only), and it works fine.

12-09-2010, 01:03 AM	#1
speedlever Fanatic Posts: 592 Karma: 138200 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NC, USA Device: PW2014, PW2012, iPad Pro	Confused about @free.kindle.com When I go into my account and manage my Kindle, the only email address I see is @Kindle.com. Is the @free.Kindle.com address outomagically generated from the @Kindle.com address? I don't see @free.Kindle.com listed anywhere on Amazon.com except under Your Personal Document Charge Limit. What address should I plug into Calibre?

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12-09-2010, 01:15 AM	#2
TheKindleWorm Guru Posts: 860 Karma: 177868 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: East Anglia UK Device: Kindle 3G, iPhone 3G, iPod 4G, PB 360, Sony 600 sold, Kindle 2i sold	Your @free.Kindle.com address is exactly the same as your @kindle.com address except for the addition of free. For example: if your kindle address is: kin1@kindle.com then your free kindle address would be: kin1@free.Kindle.com It is a bit confusing I know and I think Amazon could have done this better somehow. I can't remember if I use my free address or the standard with Calibre. But the essential thing to know is that unless you are receiving documents via 3G - there should be no charge. That said I do limit my Personal Document Limit on the Manage your Kindle page to zero. That way I won't get charged unless I choose to change it.

12-09-2010, 01:16 AM	#3
Bookworm_Girl E-reader Enthusiast Posts: 4,873 Karma: 36536965 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Southwest, USA Device: Kindle Oasis 3; Kobo Aura One; iPad Mini 5	You have a K3 wi-fi only, right? There is only the @kindle.com email. The @free.kindle.com is for the 3G + Wi-fi model. They pay money to transfer data over 3G wireless by default and the free email address gives them an alternative for Wi-fi transfers. Hope that Helps!

12-09-2010, 01:18 AM	#4
GoversAU Enthusiast Posts: 33 Karma: 2236 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kindle DXG, Kindle Oasis	I recently plugged the @kindle.com address into Calibre and got charged 99c for each item I sent via 3G. I now use the @free.kindle.com address and download the item to my Kindle via my PC.

12-09-2010, 01:19 AM	#5
speedlever Fanatic Posts: 592 Karma: 138200 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NC, USA Device: PW2014, PW2012, iPad Pro	Yes, wifi K3 only. I was just trying to understand the free.Kindle.com business. I didn't know if you could set that as a different name than the @kindle.com address. Looks like they're linked.

12-09-2010, 01:26 AM	#6
Bookworm_Girl E-reader Enthusiast Posts: 4,873 Karma: 36536965 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Southwest, USA Device: Kindle Oasis 3; Kobo Aura One; iPad Mini 5	I have the K3 wi-fi only model too. I use @kindle.com for my email address with calibre.

12-09-2010, 11:13 AM	#8
speedlever Fanatic Posts: 592 Karma: 138200 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NC, USA Device: PW2014, PW2012, iPad Pro	I went to manage my kindle account and have my "name@kindle.com" set. I added that into Calibre and used my regular email address as the send from address, but get an error message when I run a test. Perhaps I set it up wrong? Traceback (most recent call last): File "site-packages\calibre\gui2\wizard\send_email.py", line 111, in test_email_settings File "site-packages\calibre\utils\smtp.py", line 91, in sendmail File "site-packages\calibre\utils\smtp.py", line 83, in sendmail_direct IOError: Failed to send mail: SMTPServerDisconnected('Connection unexpectedly closed',) Log: Find mail exchanger for kindle.com connect: ('smtp-fw-4101.amazon.com.', 25) connect: (25, 'smtp-fw-4101.amazon.com.') reply: '554-smtp-fw-4101.amazon.com\r\n' reply: '554 SBRS score too low: http://www.senderbase.org/\r\n' reply: retcode (554); Msg: smtp-fw-4101.amazon.com SBRS score too low: http://www.senderbase.org/ connect: smtp-fw-4101.amazon.com SBRS score too low: http://www.senderbase.org/ send: 'ehlo [192.168.1.108]\r\n' connect: ('smtp-fw-9101.amazon.com.', 25) connect: (25, 'smtp-fw-9101.amazon.com.') reply: '554-smtp-fw-9101.amazon.com\r\n' reply: '554 SBRS score too low: http://www.senderbase.org/\r\n' reply: retcode (554); Msg: smtp-fw-9101.amazon.com SBRS score too low: http://www.senderbase.org/ connect: smtp-fw-9101.amazon.com SBRS score too low: http://www.senderbase.org/ send: 'ehlo [192.168.1.108]\r\n' Traceback (most recent call last): File "site-packages\calibre\utils\smtp.py", line 77, in sendmail_direct File "site-packages\calibre\utils\smtplib.py", line 704, in sendmail File "site-packages\calibre\utils\smtplib.py", line 528, in ehlo_or_helo_if_needed File "site-packages\calibre\utils\smtplib.py", line 401, in ehlo File "site-packages\calibre\utils\smtplib.py", line 358, in getreply SMTPServerDisconnected: Connection unexpectedly closed

12-09-2010, 11:21 AM	#9
Baldrake Connoisseur Posts: 90 Karma: 1792 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Kindle 3, HTC Mozart	You probably already know this, but under the "Manage my Kindle" page at amazon.com, there is a section headed "Your Kindle Approved E-mail List" where you need to add your email address(es). This is a whitelist; everything else is rejected as spam.

12-09-2010, 11:27 AM	#10
speedlever Fanatic Posts: 592 Karma: 138200 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NC, USA Device: PW2014, PW2012, iPad Pro	Hmm. I already had my send from address there. Do I need to put my @kindle.com address there too? That strikes me as rather obvious.. but what do I know?

12-09-2010, 12:54 PM	#11
speedlever Fanatic Posts: 592 Karma: 138200 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NC, USA Device: PW2014, PW2012, iPad Pro	I listed my send from email address and my kindle.com email address in the white list and still get those errors. It has to be something simple. Edit: If my K3 is not operational yet, those messages will just queue, right?

12-09-2010, 01:17 PM	#13
speedlever Fanatic Posts: 592 Karma: 138200 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NC, USA Device: PW2014, PW2012, iPad Pro	Thanks DD. I do have a gmail account. But I prefer to use my rr.com email. I'm surprised that Amazon thinks this is spam. They certainly don't have any trouble taking my online orders and sending me confirmation of orders, etc. on it.

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