Likelihood of 2.X upgrade?

bspline · 09-26-2010, 10:32 PM

Does anyone care to guesstimate *if* and *when* Kindle 2 will get an upgrade? Judging from K1 -> K2 upgrades is it likely to happen?
Also I heard Amazon released a kindle simulator that is one step forward in a path to ePub, is it true?

Effect · 09-27-2010, 01:27 AM

Now that the new one is out most likely not. When the Kindle 2 was released the Kindle 1 didn't anything at all above 1.2.

dsip · 09-27-2010, 03:15 AM

If Amazon sticks to that update policy the K3 is going to be my last Kindle. The fact that they didn't update my K1 anymore really made me hesitate already..

Balerion · 09-27-2010, 11:05 AM

If you ask me, the software updates should last until the warranty runs out for the last person that bought and registered a new Kindle 2.

I still have 3 months warranty left, and there must be people around with 9, 10 or 11 months left of warranty (especially the eBay buyers)... there must be thousands and thousands of us still with a lot of warranty left.

Surely Amazon should consider the money that they made from us, a legitimate enough reason to make sure that our older generation Kindles get the longest life and best user experience possible if software updates are what it takes to do it... does anyone else agree?

"Tech support" and "warranty repairs" shouldn't be the "end-of-the-line" IMHO... if it's improvable, it should be improved (and we know the K2 can be improved from a software level). Or do they want another generation of disgruntled Kindle owners that feel left-out? i.e. K1 owners

tomsem · 09-27-2010, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bspline

Does anyone care to guesstimate *if* and *when* Kindle 2 will get an upgrade? Judging from K1 -> K2 upgrades is it likely to happen?
Also I heard Amazon released a kindle simulator that is one step forward in a path to ePub, is it true?

As far as K2 updates are concerned, only Amazon knows. I own both K2 and K3, and while I'd theoretically like to see some of the K3 features ported to K2, if it meant that new features for K3 would be delayed or deferred, I would probably not be in favor of it.

Still, it seems they may need to update DX/DXG if they have no hardware replacement in the works (to add PDF features, Voice Guide). And at that point it might not be much of an incremental cost to upgrade K2 as well.

The rumor about ePub is wacky. It concerns the kindlegen tool that is used to build ebooks for Kindle platform. One of the things it can do is to convert ePub files to mobi format. The claim is that the ePub source files are getting packed into the mobi file.

But I don't see any evidence of this myself when I run the tools, and the source of the rumor doesn't present any, either.

Of course, ePub and mobi are very similar, and most ePub source files can be used nearly unchanged when creating the equivalent mobi format (mobi's CSS is more limited, and it doesn't support SVG graphics..). It is certainly not the case that the entire ePub file is stored inside the mobi file. It would nearly double the size of the mobi file, and that is not happening.

Likewise the Kindle Previewer app can be used to initiate conversion to mobi, and used to view the resultant mobi file. But this is all in the name of making conversion to mobi more convenient, not for supporting ePub viewing on Kindle.

ATDrake · 09-27-2010, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomsem

The claim is that the ePub source files are getting packed into the mobi file.

But I don't see any evidence of this myself when I run the tools, and the source of the rumor doesn't present any, either.
[...]
It is certainly not the case that the entire ePub file is stored inside the mobi file. It would nearly double the size of the mobi file, and that is not happening.

Actually, it is and that's exactly what's happening, but only with certain recent builds of KindleGen.

Please see this thread for details and a removal/extraction tool should you wish to confirm/deny.

bspline · 09-27-2010, 08:16 PM

Thank you all for the info. I would really like to see the K2 undergo a few more updates. It's been released for about a year, and that's not obsolete enough. Anyway, that would pinpoint the kind of commitment Amazon has to it's hardware.

09-26-2010, 10:32 PM	#1
bspline Enthusiast Posts: 37 Karma: 12 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Palo Alto, CA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPads and iPhones	Likelihood of 2.X upgrade? Does anyone care to guesstimate if and when Kindle 2 will get an upgrade? Judging from K1 -> K2 upgrades is it likely to happen? Also I heard Amazon released a kindle simulator that is one step forward in a path to ePub, is it true?

09-27-2010, 11:05 AM	#4
Balerion Connoisseur Posts: 69 Karma: 14 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: K2i K3w	Hey Amazon !!! what about us?! :-( If you ask me, the software updates should last until the warranty runs out for the last person that bought and registered a new Kindle 2. I still have 3 months warranty left, and there must be people around with 9, 10 or 11 months left of warranty (especially the eBay buyers)... there must be thousands and thousands of us still with a lot of warranty left. Surely Amazon should consider the money that they made from us, a legitimate enough reason to make sure that our older generation Kindles get the longest life and best user experience possible if software updates are what it takes to do it... does anyone else agree? "Tech support" and "warranty repairs" shouldn't be the "end-of-the-line" IMHO... if it's improvable, it should be improved (and we know the K2 can be improved from a software level). Or do they want another generation of disgruntled Kindle owners that feel left-out? i.e. K1 owners

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09-27-2010, 01:27 AM	#2
Effect Member Posts: 21 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pa, USA Device: Kindle 1 and Kindle 3	Now that the new one is out most likely not. When the Kindle 2 was released the Kindle 1 didn't anything at all above 1.2.

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dsip Connoisseur Posts: 77 Karma: 495694 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Between Devices..	If Amazon sticks to that update policy the K3 is going to be my last Kindle. The fact that they didn't update my K1 anymore really made me hesitate already..

09-27-2010, 08:16 PM	#7
bspline Enthusiast Posts: 37 Karma: 12 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Palo Alto, CA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPads and iPhones	Thank you all for the info. I would really like to see the K2 undergo a few more updates. It's been released for about a year, and that's not obsolete enough. Anyway, that would pinpoint the kind of commitment Amazon has to it's hardware.

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