|  06-05-2015, 12:54 PM | #1 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,732 Karma: 128354696 Join Date: May 2009 Location: 26 kly from Sgr A* Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000 | 
				
				PW: Trade book sales down across the board
			 
			
			From Publisher's weekly: http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/b...-february.html Quote: 
 Recently, they've been masking the decline of mass market paperback by combining those sales with trade paperbacks (so they could report growth in paperback) but apparently this time the drop was too big to mask so they're back to split reporting. It lets them report a gain *somewhere*. Gory details at the source. | |
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|  06-05-2015, 05:32 PM | #2 | 
| No Comment            Posts: 3,240 Karma: 23878043 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Australia Device: Kobo: Not just an eReader, it's an adventure! | 
			
			I find it interesting that the term 'adult' means different things in the book world vs the video world.
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|  06-05-2015, 05:42 PM | #3 | 
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|  06-05-2015, 08:21 PM | #4 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 3,067 Karma: 18821071 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sudbury, ON, Canada Device: PRS-505, PB 902, PRS-T1, PB 623, PB 840, PB 633 | 
			
			The prices just keep going up and up.  They're up around $20 here in Canada.  It makes you question whether you really need to read that book.  And mass market paperbacks are released so late that hardly anyone cares anymore when they hit the shelves.
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|  06-06-2015, 12:30 AM | #5 | 
| Guru            Posts: 997 Karma: 12000001 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Seattle Wahington U.S. Device: kindle | 
			
			How do they know about ebooks? Can they even track ebooks without a ISBN number? This doesn't count Amazon does it? I thought Amazon didn't release that sort of data. This must be only about sales from the BPHs and Barnes & Noble and the like.
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|  06-06-2015, 12:38 AM | #6 | |
| Bookaholic            Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR + | Quote: 
 It only covers participating publishers (don't know if Amazon Publishing participates). Doesn't cover self-pub stuff at all. | |
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|  06-06-2015, 07:00 AM | #7 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,196 Karma: 70314280 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Pro, iPad mini, Kobo Aura, Amazon paperwhite, Sony PRS-T2 | 
			
			One of the fundamental issues with tracking sales of books (movies and music for that matter) is that a lot of sales are driven by individual authors.  Sales jump when top authors release new books and slump when they don't.  So you really need context for generic numbers to be meaningful.
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|  06-06-2015, 07:02 AM | #8 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,732 Karma: 128354696 Join Date: May 2009 Location: 26 kly from Sgr A* Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000 | 
			
			Amazon is not a member of the AAP. (Neither is BAEN.) Melville house is. (Snicker) The BPHs (except S&S) are members, with individual imprints listed separately. Here's a listing of the trade book membership: http://publishers.org/members/trade/ It is mostly old-school tradpubs, although Rosetta Books is listed. Not Open Road. Interestingly, Samhain is listed separately from Skyhorse... Kensington is in. So is Wiley. Given that list, the numbers look to be dominated by BPH results. Curious that the only American BPH is not listed as a member of the American Association of Publishers.   | 
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|  06-06-2015, 09:41 AM | #9 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 4,764 Karma: 246906703 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA Device: Oasis 3, Oasis 2, PW3, PW1, KT | 
			
			Pretty easy - there is no age limit for books. Once you are old enough for the gory movie, why read. If you are in it for the story then it really doesn't matter if it is violent or not.
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|  06-06-2015, 10:02 AM | #10 | 
| PHD in Horribleness            Posts: 2,320 Karma: 23599604 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the ironbound section, near avenue L Device: Just a whole bunch. I guess I am a collector now. | 
			
			I have been buying a whole lot of books. Just few of the overpriced books from the big publishers. My heart doesn't bleed for them You reap what you sow. | 
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|  06-06-2015, 11:11 AM | #11 | 
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|  06-06-2015, 11:29 AM | #12 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,531 Karma: 8059866 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Device: Kobo H2O / Aura HD / Glo / iPad3 | 
			
			"It's absolutely vital that we control the retail price and we'll do anything it takes." ... "Oh s#!+ we control pricing" | 
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|  06-06-2015, 12:02 PM | #13 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,732 Karma: 128354696 Join Date: May 2009 Location: 26 kly from Sgr A* Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000 | Quote: 
 At the start of the conspiracy, an "unnamed" (penguin) exec confided to Shatzkin that he loved being able to raise prices at will, that he'd gone as high as $16 and was thinking of $18. A month later, Penguin was at $13 and $16 a distant pipe dream. Or maybe the word didn't get around. | |
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|  06-09-2015, 06:54 PM | #14 | 
| Guru            Posts: 733 Karma: 3593438 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Glo. Galaxy Tab S 8.4 | 
			
			Here in Australia retail books are REALLY expensive. So I rarely buy physical books anymore. I have loads of ebooks to be read anyway, so I'm good for some years. The legally free books I can get could keep me entertained for years after that as well. If the prices of pbooks and ebooks come down dramatically I'll buy books again, but I can't see that happening. | 
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|  06-18-2015, 07:38 PM | #15 | 
| Omnivorous            Posts: 3,283 Karma: 27978909 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rural NW Oregon Device: Kindle Voyage, Kindle Fire HD, Kindle 3, KPW1 | 
			
			Ebooks have ISBN numbers and what the hell is the graphic?
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