Link to the next page

mfomich · 01-25-2015, 10:02 PM

Hello guys!

Suppose, I have a sigil file with multiple pages. For some strange reason I need to put a hyperlink on each page, which leads to the next page. Can I do this with some kind of universal link or should I use absolute address for each link?

Thank you.

eschwartz · 01-25-2015, 10:07 PM

Absolute addresses. There is no way to dynamically tell it to go different places depending on the source location.

I agree with you on the "strange reason" part.

DiapDealer · 01-26-2015, 06:08 AM

You probably don't need any link. Sigil's not a reading app. There will be no way (by default) to navigate from one page|chapter|section to the next from within Book View. Each html file is edited/viewed within its own self-contained tab.

But since all "pages" will be manifested (and included in the spine) of the opf file using Sigil, they will automatically flow to the next one when viewed in a proper epub reader. Check your epub with something like Adobe Desktop Edition or calibre's ebook viewer (without including a manual link to the next section) and see.

Unless I misunderstood what you meant by "for some strange reason." I'm assuming you're simply unfamiliar with Sigil and/or epub editors (and no ... there is no magic "go to the next page" type of link that can be used).

theducks · 01-26-2015, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

You probably don't need any link. Sigil's not a reading app. There will be no way (by default) to navigate from one page|chapter|section to the next from within Book View. Each html file is edited/viewed within its own self-contained tab.

But since all "pages" will be manifested (and included in the spine) of the opf file using Sigil, they will automatically flow to the next one when viewed in a proper epub reader. Check your epub with something like Adobe Desktop Edition or calibre's ebook viewer (without including a manual link to the next section) and see.

Unless I misunderstood what you meant by "for some strange reason." I'm assuming you're simply unfamiliar with Sigil and/or epub editors (and no ... there is no magic "go to the next page" type of link that can be used).

In (default keyboard) Sigil
Alt-PgDn
Alt-PgUp
steps thru same file types in the book browser list

DiapDealer · 01-26-2015, 10:57 AM

I could be all wet, but I just got the impression the OP thought the next page links were necessary for the epub to function properly. Like the links were required to get to the next page|chapter|section at all.

Like; "for some strange reason, my book won't go to the next 'page'". I see now that it could just as easily have been; "say someone was making me do this (for some strange reason), how would I go about it?"

BetterRed · 01-26-2015, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I see now that it could just as easily have been; "say someone was making me do this (for some strange reason), how would I go about it?"

That's what I assumed, 'someone' was imposing a web magazine long article style

Something like this from Vanity Fair ==>> It's the Economy, Dummkopf!

BR

mfomich · 01-26-2015, 04:14 PM

Thanks for the replies!

Actually, I don't need a forward link, because a can simply tap the screen, but a link to a previous page and for reloading the current one (for example, if you want to go back to the beginning of the current chapter) would be useful. Seems like absolute links are the only choice.

theducks · 01-26-2015, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfomich

Thanks for the replies!

Actually, I don't need a forward link, because a can simply tap the screen, but a link to a previous page and for reloading the current one (for example, if you want to go back to the beginning of the current chapter) would be useful. Seems like absolute links are the only choice.

Kindles have a TOC.

OK it takes 3 selections (menu:TOC:item)

eschwartz · 01-26-2015, 05:45 PM

Or swipe up/down to jump between ToC items.

Hitch · 01-27-2015, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfomich

Thanks for the replies!

Actually, I don't need a forward link, because a can simply tap the screen, but a link to a previous page and for reloading the current one (for example, if you want to go back to the beginning of the current chapter) would be useful. Seems like absolute links are the only choice.

How do you know what "page" they are on? What's the top and bottom of that page? And what constitutes the "previous" page? How do you determine that on the fly? In what reading device? At what size font? On what size screen?

My "page" in my Win8 Kindle Reader on my Lenovo Yoga Thinkpad is not remotely the same as my "page" on my Voyage. My "page" on my ePUBreader on my Thinkpad is not the same as my "page" on my NookHD.

How will you make those determinations, to put a "go back a page" or "go forward a page," type link????

Hitch

Notjohn · 01-27-2015, 06:10 AM

"My "page" on my ePUBreader on my Thinkpad is not the same as my "page" on my NookHD"

That all seems vaguely distasteful. I think it was ee-poo-breeder that got me started. Is that REALLY its name?

mfomich · 01-27-2015, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitch

How do you know what "page" they are on? What's the top and bottom of that page? And what constitutes the "previous" page? How do you determine that on the fly? In what reading device? At what size font? On what size screen?

I mean if a book consists of some html or xhtml files (as one can see in Sigil), we could possibly make a navigation between them. Absolute links are straightforward. But, you're right, in relative links we should determine what is "previous" first. I thought that when organized into an ebook, these html pages get specific names (like page0001.html, page0002.html and so on), so that we can make a script to jump between them just forward and backward. Now I read your answers and see that it is hardly possible.

Hitch · 01-27-2015, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfomich

I mean if a book consists of some html or xhtml files (as one can see in Sigil), we could possibly make a navigation between them. Absolute links are straightforward. But, you're right, in relative links we should determine what is "previous" first. I thought that when organized into an ebook, these html pages get specific names (like page0001.html, page0002.html and so on), so that we can make a script to jump between them just forward and backward. Now I read your answers and see that it is hardly possible.

mfomich:

If you had a fixed-format eBook, in either ePUB or MOBI, you could do this. But honestly, in my humble opinion, you are over-thinking it. (I am badly guilty of this myself. I know what it's like.) Unless each "page" of your ebook is its own html file, that won't work, not reliably. Normally, each xhtml or html "section" in an ebook is actually a chapter, or a section, not a page.

In real devices, you can hit the "back" button (in about 90% of them); you have the NCX for navigation in ePUB2; you have the TOC (basically) for nav in ePUB3 and in the Kindle devices. Honestly--there's virtually (ha!) no reason to have a link to a "previous" page, because a) you can't figure out what the hell that is, and b) there are far, far easier ways to get back to where you were, than that.

I hope that helps. As you develop in the ways of The ePUB Force, you'll see that it's overthinking it. Trust me.

@nj: Firefox's add-in reader is called, "ePUBReader." I don't remember the name of my ePUBreader on my Yoga TP, to be honest. I used it generically.

Hitch

01-25-2015, 10:02 PM	#1
mfomich Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2015 Device: Amazon Kindle	Link to the next page Hello guys! Suppose, I have a sigil file with multiple pages. For some strange reason I need to put a hyperlink on each page, which leads to the next page. Can I do this with some kind of universal link or should I use absolute address for each link? Thank you.

01-26-2015, 06:08 AM	#3
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,358 Karma: 203720150 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	You probably don't need any link. Sigil's not a reading app. There will be no way (by default) to navigate from one page\|chapter\|section to the next from within Book View. Each html file is edited/viewed within its own self-contained tab. But since all "pages" will be manifested (and included in the spine) of the opf file using Sigil, they will automatically flow to the next one when viewed in a proper epub reader. Check your epub with something like Adobe Desktop Edition or calibre's ebook viewer (without including a manual link to the next section) and see. Unless I misunderstood what you meant by "for some strange reason." I'm assuming you're simply unfamiliar with Sigil and/or epub editors (and no ... there is no magic "go to the next page" type of link that can be used). Last edited by DiapDealer; 01-26-2015 at 07:41 AM.

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01-25-2015, 10:07 PM	#2
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Absolute addresses. There is no way to dynamically tell it to go different places depending on the source location. I agree with you on the "strange reason" part.

01-26-2015, 10:57 AM	#5
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,358 Karma: 203720150 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I could be all wet, but I just got the impression the OP thought the next page links were necessary for the epub to function properly. Like the links were required to get to the next page\|chapter\|section at all. Like; "for some strange reason, my book won't go to the next 'page'". I see now that it could just as easily have been; "say someone was making me do this (for some strange reason), how would I go about it?"

01-26-2015, 04:14 PM	#7
mfomich Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2015 Device: Amazon Kindle	Thanks for the replies! Actually, I don't need a forward link, because a can simply tap the screen, but a link to a previous page and for reloading the current one (for example, if you want to go back to the beginning of the current chapter) would be useful. Seems like absolute links are the only choice.

01-26-2015, 05:45 PM	#9
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Or swipe up/down to jump between ToC items.

01-27-2015, 06:10 AM	#11
Notjohn mostly an observer Posts: 1,518 Karma: 987654 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: Kindle	"My "page" on my ePUBreader on my Thinkpad is not the same as my "page" on my NookHD" That all seems vaguely distasteful. I think it was ee-poo-breeder that got me started. Is that REALLY its name?

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