|  06-14-2012, 06:15 PM | #1 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 3,671 Karma: 12205348 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: Galaxy S, Nook w/CM7 | 
				
				Kobo Vox: Now comes with Google Play and more
			 
			
			It looks like the folks at Kobo have been busy.... Quote: 
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|  06-14-2012, 10:03 PM | #2 | 
| Addict            Posts: 304 Karma: 1139862 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Ipod Touch,Ipad3,Kindle fire, Samsung Galaxy tab, Samsung Galaxy S3 | 
			
			Problem is for a cheap & 7 inch readher, the  Galaxy tab 2 7.0at $249 (seen sales as low as $229)  it's CPU is nearly 3 times faster, has a better GPU, Access to all the samsung Hubs much better UI with samsungs Touchwiz 4, Android 4.0 , built in ir blaster  for controll of your tv/dvr/dvd players, bigger battery. not to mention access to the google play store.   saving a lil longer to get the galaxy tab 2 7.0 will get you a much better ereader/media consumption device than the Vox | 
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|  06-15-2012, 05:11 AM | #3 | 
| Trying for calm & polite            Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura | 
			
			Interestingly enough, the Vox was never marketed by Kobo as a tablet. I think most of us who bought it are very glad to have access to Google Play and use the tablet abilities it does have. At $179 it's great for everything I need out of a 7 inch device. There will always be something newer, faster, more full featured, but as a reader with enhanced abilities, it's pretty remarkable. And the price makes it the kind of thing I can gift to young grandchildren without it breaking the bank.
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|  06-15-2012, 11:12 AM | #4 | 
| Nameless Being | 
			
			For what it's worth, there are reasons to buy a $180 tablet instead of a significantly better $230 tablet.  These are disposable devices.  Since they are being carried around a lot, they will probably break.  I use it in public spaces a lot, so there is a chance of it being stolen.  Even if bad luck doesn't befall the device, it is only designed to last for a limited amount of time (e.g. the battery will likely fail after 2 or 3 years).  So some of us don't want to spend extra money for features that we don't even need.
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|  06-16-2012, 03:25 AM | #5 | 
| eBook Enthusiast            Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6 | 
			
			They will probably break? I've been carrying around a wide assortment of PDA's, laptops, bookreaders, tablets, etc, for well over 25 years now and haven't broken one yet. Would you regard yourself as a particularly clumsy person when it comes to electronic devices? I'm curious about why you think that your devices will probably break!
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|  06-16-2012, 04:58 AM | #6 | 
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			My Vox fell down a flight of stairs some months ago. Totally undamaged.
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|  06-16-2012, 05:06 AM | #7 | 
| Trying for calm & polite            Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura | 
			
			but will it blend...
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|  06-16-2012, 05:07 AM | #8 | 
| eBook Enthusiast            Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6 | 
			
			Blend with what? I don't understand the question, I'm afraid.
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|  06-16-2012, 06:29 AM | #9 | 
| Trying for calm & polite            Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura | 
			
			There is a series of videos on YouTube in which the manufacturer of a very powerful blender puts various things in his blender to see what happens--including iPhones, marbles, all sorts of things. Here is the iPAD one: http://youtu.be/lAl28d6tbko
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|  06-16-2012, 06:30 AM | #10 | 
| eBook Enthusiast            Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6 | 
			
			Thanks. This kind of thing make me feel a little sick. It's wanton destruction for the sake of it. Capitalism gone mad.
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|  06-16-2012, 06:33 AM | #11 | 
| Trying for calm & polite            Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura | 
			
			I'm guessing that the fellow that does this has sold a whole lot of blenders this way. A marketing cost for him, I suppose.
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|  06-16-2012, 09:43 AM | #12 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,302 Karma: 2607151 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Toronto Device: Kobo Aura HD, Kindle Paperwhite, Asus ZenPad 3, Kobo Glo | 
			
			Not lost, I hope, in the announcement that the $180 Kobo Vox now has full Google Play access is that everyone who has bought one since launch now has access to Google Play without spending another nickel. In other words, magically, the device does considerably more than it promised to do when purchased. And, it still delivers a pretty well-rounded experience -- reading, basic email, Facebook, surfing, radio, music, and other distractions like games and YouTube -- in a convenient package. | 
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|  06-16-2012, 11:03 AM | #13 | 
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			While they won't break, BWinmill makes a very good point that these devises are disposable.  Almost none come with user replaceable batteries.  And for most there is no battery replacement policy. Apple will replace your battery (really swap your device for a refurb with a new battery) for a set fee designated on their site. Whatever problems they have, I sure appreciate that policy. Amazon does not have a policy for the Fire-- maybe they will somewhere down the road when these batteries are starting to die, but I just don't understand why they have not set it up now. And I'm even more baffled why no one gives a crap. The economy is in the sh*tter, and we're still being trained to throw away things that work just fine. | 
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|  06-16-2012, 11:21 AM | #14 | |
| Guru            Posts: 714 Karma: 2003751 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ottawa, ON Device: Kobo Glo HD | Quote: 
 
 Be it as it may, everything that undermines idiotic notion that fighting your own customer base is viable business strategy is welcome, and this is definitely a move in the right direction. | |
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|  06-16-2012, 12:10 PM | #15 | 
| Nameless Being | 
			
			It's quite possible that there was no Pinky-and-the-Brain scheme involved here.  The Google Apps are just that: Google's apps.  Unlike the open source portions of Android, they are distributed under Google's terms.  Maybe Kobo didn't feel like living up to them at first. I bring that option up because the Vox is a very open device. It may not have offered Google Play, but side-loading Apps was easy and they even provided root access through ADB (i.e. no rooting required). They don't have to provide either, but they did. While I have yet to own an Android device that prevents side-loading, I have seen plenty where root access isn't the norm. As for breakage, accidents happen. Since I'm always on the move and always reading on the move, accidents are more likely to happen in my case (i.e. you don't have to be clumsy to break something). I've had a Kindle break for no apparent reason, airport security drop my laptop, and I've personally dropped my Vox. The laptop and Vox survived with cosmetic damage, but that won't always be the case. | 
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