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Old 05-07-2025, 01:24 AM   #31
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there is a difference for me between writing WITH the original authors permission be it by teaming or writing along the lines the author of the bookverse has set up for doing so and fanfic. I always regarded 'fanfic' as "let's trespass somebody else's bookverse and run our own barbecue unasked"
Some authors have nothing against fans writing in their bookverse and even encourage it.
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Old 05-07-2025, 04:45 AM   #32
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there is a difference for me between writing WITH the original authors permission be it by teaming or writing along the lines the author of the bookverse has set up for doing so and fanfic. I always regarded 'fanfic' as "let's trespass somebody else's bookverse and run our own barbecue unasked"
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EDIT: Longer list of authors who approve than those who don't: https://fanlore.org/wiki/Professiona...anfic_Policies

EDIT: Since you obviously think fanfiiction is inferior, not sure why I bother.

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Old 05-11-2025, 08:18 PM   #33
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Old 05-11-2025, 11:51 PM   #34
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The only one that's typical modern fanfic was a hockey romance where I'd read a review mentioning that it started as a captain America/Bucky Barnes fanfic. I doubt anyone who only knew the films and comics would recognize the inspiration, though.
Where else would you go for the inspiration?
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Old 05-12-2025, 12:38 AM   #35
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Are you sure you were just suspicious that these were originally fanfic?
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Old 05-12-2025, 01:35 AM   #36
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Where else would you go for the inspiration?
One fanfic subgenre is coffee shop fics. You put the original characters in an ordinary, everyday setting, like making them all employees and customers at a coffee shop instead of superheroes or whatever extraordinary they are in the original works, and play with how they'd act in that setting. Some of those fics are so different from the original works that it's pretty hard to spot the parts that are inspired by them. But someone who has read a lot of fanfic might recognise some coffee shop tropes.

In other fics, the inspiration is more obvious. Like the one where a poor artist finds a bottle with a genie who has been magically enslaved by an evil cult bent on world domination, and the artist and the genie defeat the cult together. Still pretty far from the original story of Captain America and Bucky Barnes, but enough left of the overarching story and the defining characteristics of the originals that it wouldn't be too hard to spot it even with the serial numbers filed off.
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Are you sure you were just suspicious that these were originally fanfic?
At first I thought Rowling was getting creative with pen names again.
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One fanfic subgenre is coffee shop fics. You put the original characters in an ordinary, everyday setting, like making them all employees and customers at a coffee shop instead of superheroes or whatever extraordinary they are in the original works, and play with how they'd act in that setting. Some of those fics are so different from the original works that it's pretty hard to spot the parts that are inspired by them. But someone who has read a lot of fanfic might recognise some coffee shop tropes.
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That's why I don't read officially published Star Trek or Star Wars books either. Or sequels/prequels to famous classics written by modern authors. For me, it's the original or nothing.
The first written episode of Star Wars was ghostwritten by Alan Dean Foster, basing the plot from the screenplay written by George Lucas, which was like hundreds of pages (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_W...Luke_Skywalker)
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Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker is the novelization of the 1977 film Star Wars, ghostwritten by American author Alan Dean Foster, but credited to director George Lucas. It was first published on November 12, 1976, by Ballantine Books, several months before the release of the film. In later years, it was republished under the title Star Wars: A New Hope to reflect the retroactive addition of a subtitle to the film in 1981.
It's first fanfic imho would had been "Splinter of the Mind's Eye", I'd liked those; didn't have readed many others, btw.

As for fanfic, at the appendix from the book I'd just finished it mentions Marion Zimmer Bradley for her Avalon serie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Zimmer_Bradley
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The first written episode of Star Wars was ghostwritten by Alan Dean Foster, basing the plot from the screenplay written by George Lucas, which was like hundreds of pages (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_W...Luke_Skywalker)

It's first fanfic imho would had been "Splinter of the Mind's Eye", I'd liked those; didn't have readed many others, btw.
Off-topic, but Lucas had also originally commissioned sci-fi author Leigh Brackett to write the Empire Strikes Back screenplay:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Em...s_Back#Writing
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In her 2016 autobiography The Princess Diarist, Fisher wrote that she and Harrison Ford had a three-month affair during the filming of Star Wars in 1976.
Which means that when we watch Leia on that first film, she (seventeen) and Han (Harrison Ford, that at that time was married) was having a romance for real.
Sadly anyone forget her suddenly and for long, still watching a beatiful princess on the screen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrie_Fisher
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I'm not about judging, many actress and actors on those films from Lucas and Coppola was quite just students by those times.

Sorry again,
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Carrie Fisher was great in The Blues Brothers.
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