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Originally Posted by fjtorres
...and is a sample of one amateur is enough to slander hundreds/thousands of established pros?
In the SF field, nobody is going to claim Leo Frankowski, Lois Bujold, Kate Wilhem, or Eric Flint are slush pile just because they self-publish.
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I wouldn't call these counter-examples, though. All of those authors established themselves via the tradpub machine, which is exactly what many people are saying is a key benefit of that system. Whether they decided later to do some indie publishing as well/instead has no bearing on the quality of works produced by people that go straight indie, or that couldn't get tradpubbed.
It's apples and oranges that just happened to be packed in the same box.