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Are the results of both purely local - so there can't be universal rules for anything?
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I guess you can summon imaginary others to *any* conversation. What would Aristotle say about the mess in the Gulf of Mexico? How would you teach Plato to ride a bike? And so you could project rules about how oil companies should behave, or about how to push the pedal with your foot rather than your hand, that would be clear to a Greek philosopher. But these are imaginary situations. Their universal nature depends on a whole series of 'What if ...' suppositions - including your being able to speak Attic Greek. My wife can: I'll ask her to write out a road bike manual for Greek philosophers.