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Originally Posted by capidamonte
Sorry you're having trouble with the wife. What I'm saying is not what your wife is saying.
I never said that it was perfect; what I said implied that your experience is not normal. If it's not normal, then your complaints and dislikes might scare someone off in disproportionate measure to their likelihood.
80486-level performance is quite a claim, and certainly off-putting. And, given my years with Ubuntu, seems incredibly, lottery-winning unlikely.
Fair enough. But whenever something is different, it's scary. Maybe not to you, but to some readers. People don't know much about Linux, so your story is powerful beyond its intent. And you're carrying cultural baggage that Windows is the baseline.
I'm not easily offended, I'm easily provoked by the spreading of FUD. Unanswered FUD is FUD victorious. It may not be your intention, but it's the effect.
I bought a monstrously cool laptop yesterday, and restored it to its factory-new OS (Vista). Living in Linux-land for so long, the experience was terrifying -- constant pop-ups about programs running, warnings about vulnerabilities, AV programs hawking themselves by being embedded in the OS. There were at least a dozen visible icons in the tray, all sucking CPU -- never mind what was going on invisibly. This is without installing or changing a single thing. I had a constant feeling that I was out of control, that it was trying to train me how to behave.
Now, it's Vista, notoriously bad. But the mode of interaction with it is entirely different than the mode I engage in with Linux. The OS is in charge in Windows, constantly "protecting" you from yourself, fighting customizations, hiding configuration. (The Registry! AGH!) In Linux, yeah, sometimes you have to Google, or use the command line. And sometimes there is no solution, largely because hardware manufacturers tie themselves to Windows. But at least I can do what I want, and change what I want -- and I don't have to live in fear, or bear the constant harangue of marketing.
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Yes, my wife is a minor headache in the area of "Why did...." and "Why would....". As in - "Why would anyone buy a suv!" Because some people want them. If she dislikes something, it's obviously bad, and everyone should see it her way. Same thing whenever she sees a jacked up pickup truck. "Why would anyone...." I don't even try to reason with her.
I occasionally run into the "Why would
anyone buy something other than a Mac?" kind of people. When I wrote my post I knew that
someone was going to think that I was trashing Linux.
Some (not all or even most) Linux and Mac users have something in common, they can overreact to a
perceived slight of their favored OS.
"I never said that it was perfect; what I said implied that your experience is not normal. If it's not normal, then your complaints and dislikes might scare someone off in disproportionate measure to their likelihood."
Are no criticisms allowed? Should we whisper to each other late at night?
Actually, my first, and biggest, complaint had to do with
my video performance. I even anticipated that someone would suggest that I replace the video card.
"And before anyone suggests replacing the graphics card the answer is No."
Going back to your first reply to my first post you said -
"More FUD."
My reply was a civil -
"My best guess is that the main problem was with the graphics card." Again, clearly stating that the problem was probably
MY graphics card.
The next complaint I had, started out with -
"The next complaint is one that would be taken care of in time. .... There were more requests for permission...
Your answer -
"You have to give permission when you install applications -- if you close the installer every time, well, there you go, it's going to keep asking." Leaves me a little confused.
Are you saying that when I install a program in Linux there is something I should leave open? It looked simple - install a Linux WMA converter and exit the setup program. What should be left open, and for how long? In real life it could be hours or days before I install something new. I am being somewhat facetious because I don't understand your saying not to close the program installer.
"Fair enough. But whenever something is different, it's scary. Maybe not to you, but to some readers. People don't know much about Linux, so your story is powerful beyond its intent. And you're carrying cultural baggage that Windows is the baseline."
Anyone afraid to try something because it's "different" probably wouldn't try a different OS in the first place.
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Powerful beyond its intent"??? I have a minor post in a Linux love fest where everyone is saying how great it is, and you say that it's "
powerful beyond its intent"? Look at all of the other post!
Why do you think that I tried Linux again! Give me a break "powerful beyond its intent".
Look at your reaction to my post. If I were a computer newby would I want to try Linux? What if I had a problem. Is this the kind of reaction I would get? Better to stay away from Linux with reactions like that.
Yes, I anticipated someone over reacting, but I also expected others wanting to help me with my problems.
Hence -
"And before anyone suggests replacing the graphics card the answer is No."
and
"Simply put, I've expressed my opinion that Linux is not for me."
to forestall offers of help. jgaiser was the only one to offer help. Linux would be better off with more like him.
"I bought a monstrously cool laptop yesterday, and restored it to its factory-new OS (Vista). Living in Linux-land for so long, the experience was terrifying...."
Sorry about you using Vista, I could have told you to skip it as I did. We all make mistakes.
You have obviously had bad problems with other OS in the past and find Linux simpler. Mac users find Macs easier to use too. And MS Windows users learn to pray.
To each his own. But attacking those you disagree with, and trashing their systems, because you feel that
YOUR system
is vastly superior seems juvenile. "My dads bigger and better than your dad! And I'll beat you up if you don't say so." That kind of thing.
If you believe that your system is better then help others understand how to make it work for them.
"I'm not easily offended, I'm easily provoked by the spreading of FUD. Unanswered FUD is FUD victorious. It may not be your intention, but it's the effect."
For some reason I believe you.