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Old 07-05-2010, 06:38 PM   #676
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Originally Posted by TimMason View Post
Your ethical common sense is, I fear, rather like the cartoon dog who, having overshot the lip of the cliff, keeps running. Post-Christian ethics, in so far as it sidesteps the objections of Sade and Dostoevsky, is running on empty. Thus it is that many of the 'new atheist' theorists are unable to see quite how difficult their position is: AC Grayling is a case in point. They seem to believe that they can have the Christian ethic without the Christianity. I'm not convinced that you can.
Maybe I'm being misled by your continual use of "Christianity", and you are using that term in a more general sense.

I would argue, and I doubt anyone would deny, that ethics existed long before Christianity. I would also argue, and I also believe that few would deny, that the Christian moral framework is largely based on pre-Christian ideals.

Would you argue either of those propositions?

If not, how would you argue that ethics could exist pre-Christian, but not post-Christian?


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