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Old 07-05-2010, 11:30 AM   #654
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Originally Posted by TimMason View Post
Not at all. I wrote - twice now, I think - that there could be no 'natural morality' without transcendence. Why not?
....... Only a transcendent being can give that guarantee, choosing our species ....
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Ethical argument may take account of religious belief, and it may take account of science: clearly these are part of the environment in which such arguments occur. But neither the one nor the other has any casting vote.
Ah but if that is your claim you must demonstrate the existance of that supernatural being, which by definition you can't. Thus we are left with humans and human thoughts and beliefs.

You seem to be trying to set science against religion in this context but as far as morals go, it is neither it is life and it's survival and on-going existence that creates what are called morals -- rules of behavior which provide for the means of continuation of the species.

I think to define morals outside that environment is to introduce artificiality.
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