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Old 06-24-2010, 11:15 PM   #104
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Originally Posted by nguirado View Post
If somebody is here illegally, then, yes, they've lost the right to be in the US.

By your logic, somebody shouldn't have to prove they have a driver's license when they're pulled over. If we want to have an orderly process of immigration, we have to have some enforcement.

My relatives are Cuban and have lived in a police state. Arizona is way better. I'm sure it's way better than 17th-century India, rights-wise.

What, specifically, is the inhumane treatment?
I wasn't suggesting anything that happened but you can google Maricopa County's sheriff. I'm talking about what could and I predict will happen. This is a law that I promise you will be abused. read my earlier posts for some things I think will happen.

How much better is Arizona? If the police can stop anyone and demand proof of innocence? People will support this because if they don't have brown skin they think this law will have no effect on them. Others will do it because they're afraid and don't care if they have civil liberties or not. I care. I'm speaking out against giving the local police this power. I'm also speaking out against labeling a person illegal rather than just their actions.

I don't care if the majority want it. History is full of examples of the tyranny of the majority, I don't even need to godwin this discussion, look back to segregation. The majority are wrong. If they want to control immigration they need to do it another way.
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