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Old 06-24-2010, 10:59 PM   #103
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Originally Posted by Iphinome View Post
If someone's "illegal" they've already lost. They suddenly don't deserve basic rights like humane treatment. If however just their acts or the acts of their parents in the case of children are illegal... Well they become people, get trails, presumption of innocence. The good stuff that means the difference between a free society and a police state or even a caste system.
If somebody is here illegally, then, yes, they've lost the right to be in the US.

By your logic, somebody shouldn't have to prove they have a driver's license when they're pulled over. If we want to have an orderly process of immigration, we have to have some enforcement.

My relatives are Cuban and have lived in a police state. Arizona is way better. I'm sure it's way better than 17th-century India, rights-wise.

What, specifically, is the inhumane treatment?
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