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Originally Posted by nguirado
I see your confusion. You think that when people say that somebody's "illegal" that they're saying that a person's existence is against the law, like somebody over 30 in Logan's Run.
That's not the case. It's part of "illegal immigrant" and just means that they don't have permission to be in the US.
It's like if somebody is in my house without my permission. That's illegal. Or, if you don't pay for a ticket before going to a movie. The person himself isn't illegal. He's just somewhere without permission.
Anyways, back to the video:
Since Arizona's unemployment is over 9%, it seems hard to believe that employers are having such a hard time finding people. Maybe the unemployed in AZ aren't sufficiently motivated.
And, if AZ needs people, they should lobby for more immigration. Then, they'd be legal. Win-win.
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Yes that's the basic idea, I object to terms that suggest a person's existence is proscribed by law. A person can not be illegal only their acts.
What can I say? Words matter. Saying someone is illegal is a step in dehumanizing therm. This has a long history and there's quite a bit of it here on mobileread. Control the terms, control the debate, paint the other side as evil without ever having to make a valid point.
If someone's "illegal" they've already lost. They suddenly don't deserve basic rights like humane treatment. If however just their acts or the acts of their parents in the case of children are illegal... Well they become people, get trails, presumption of innocence. The good stuff that means the difference between a free society and a police state or even a caste system.
I'm a bit idealistic I admit but all I'm basically trying to say is people, any people don't need to be harassed or constantly having to prove themselves on demand. If you have evidence of something there's a justice system, if you don't have evidence leave them, and me alone.