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Old 06-16-2010, 11:59 PM   #58
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Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
A party may seek to protect his or her copyrights against unauthorized use by filing a civil lawsuit in federal district court. If you believe that your copyright has been infringed, consult an attorney. In cases of willful infringement for profit, the U.S. Attorney may initiate a criminal investigation.

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-fairuse.html
Do you have a point? Did anyone say it was lawful to distribute copies without permission?


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What is copyright infringement?
As a general matter, copyright infringement occurs when a copyrighted work is reproduced, distributed, performed, publicly displayed, or made into a derivative work without the permission of the copyright owner.

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-definitions.html

Question: Why are copyright holders concerned about piracy?

Answer: Free speech is protected by the U.S. Constitution but so are property rights. Copyright law provides incentives for creating. One of the incentives for creating software, music, literature and other works is being able to reap the financial benefits as the creator. Illegitimate distribution of copies may prevent the copyright holder from benefiting from the sale of legitimate copies of the product. The theory is that significantly fewer people would buy copies from the copyright holder if other copies were available cheaper or for free.
I see the word infringement I see the word copy, I don't see the word steal[/quote]

http://www.chillingeffects.org/piracy/faq.cgi#QID143

steal   /stil/ Show Spelled [steel] Show IPA ,verb, stole, sto·len, steal·ing, noun
–verb (used with object)
1. to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, esp. secretly or by force

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/steal

I know bloody well what the words mean. Obviously you do not.

The dictionary definition of steal is to take something that isn't yours. Copyright infringement is taking the product of someone without permission. If you don't have permission to take it, it isn't yours. If you take something that isn't yours, you are stealing. Maybe the concept is too simple for you to grasp? Or are you just trying to rationalize your own thefts?[/quote]

I don't see the word copy listed there.

Accusing me of theft like that is probably against the posting guidelines and possibly libelous.

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Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
This isn't about DRM and defeating it so you can freely use what you own. This about taking something you don't already own. Backing up or replacing (including media shift) a paper book with a digital copy is legal. Getting a copy from someone who legally owns a copy and is making the copy for you to replace a damaged or destroyed copy you legally owned is probably legal (it's a gray area legally but since the copy you are replacing was legal I seriously doubt it would be a problem; I replaced a CD a friend had damaged in a car break in based on that since I knew she had owned a legal copy--I had given it to her). Getting that backup or replacement copy from a pirate is very questionable since the pirate doesn't have the right to reproduce and distribute that product, assuming the pirate even owns a copy of the book.
That turns out not to be the case, this thread is exactly about freely using what you've paid for. The question was about downloading a copy of a book you've already bought. That would be instead of doing the scanning yourself which one might not have the equipment for or one may not want to risk damage to the book in the scanning process. We've settled on it is not legal the question was is it moral. Everyone has to decide that for themselves but I happen to have no problem with it.

Some people do, they say you paid for paper and are only entitled to paper till it is destroyed and then you must buy again. Bit those are the same people who say you're only entitled to use something so long as the drm servers are working and only on a single device. Those are the people who lobby for longer copyright. Those are the people who lobby for laws that prevent stripping DRM. Those are the people who consider selling a used copy as akin to picking their pockets.

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Btw, the passages I copied from various websites were done legally under fair use which permits me to make a copy of part of a work for educational purposes.
It was certainly fair use but I don't think astroturfing counts as educational.
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