Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoon Man
Dude, you need a radio show.
Everyone sees something different in the flag, and the European countries can go jump on the log, I don't care. Yeah, America has screwed up, so has every other country. Aye, our leaders have lied, and are lieing now, that doesn't mean that we can't stop them. And you know what? We are falling! The great thing about our country is that aye, we're going to fall, just like every other bloody country, but that little piece of paper that you claim has always meant nothing will live on, because while the majority may not claim it, its a bloody good bit of writing.
Aye, so other countries have stopped executing criminals, instead you pay for them to live a better life than your less dangerous homeless. Your kidnappings, your organized crime, and your rampant outcries against anyone different are shameful. You claim to have the upper hand in societal ways (and you always have) but its all a bunch of sensationalist garbage.
Oh, wooptie-bloody-doo, you can name all of our failures! That is just amazing, I'm so glad your learned enough to do that. What you've evidently failed to grasp in your existence is how to actually make people think. It is a shameful little song and dance you sing, talking about not wanting to be violent and everyone should work things out, but you can't hold a bloody civil conversation! The first chance you get, you throw around insults and ignore any points that you can't handle addressing.
Your discrediting yourself and invalidating all the crap that you spew. I enjoy having intellectual discussions and debates, there have been and will be (I sincerely hope so anyway) people who have opened my eyes to things that I would never have been aware of before. I really hoped you would be one of them, but you can't stop slinging your crap long enough to hit on a different point. We bloody well understand you are anti-American, thats great, but if that is all you are I'm seriously doubting your ability to reason.
Please, prove me wrong and argue a topic, don't insult everyone that disagrees with you.
And yes, I'm all for owning guns. Until you can remove the ability for one person to harm another entirely from the gene pool, I'm going to carry my guns and knives with the hope that any money spent will be a bloody waste and I'll never have to use them.
|
You proved yourself wrong. You haven't yet made a claim or backed it with any information. You talk of the constitution yet are unwilling to see that it no longer applies. I need only one example to invalidate your faith and trust in the constitution - all you have to look at is Guantanemo and the suspension of Habeas Corpus to know that your constitution isn't being followed any longer, if it ever was.
And no, I'm not Anti-American, I am Anti-America though, as it stands, as a war nation with no concern for what it does on this planet. There are plenty of Americans who I love, who have shaped me over time - Noam Chompsky, Emma Goldman, Howard Zinn, Neil Young, Pete Seeger, Martin Luther King Jr.... the list is pretty much endless from writer to actor to social activist, America has and will continue to produce some of the finest human beings on this earth. The Americans I don't like, are the ones like you. With your guns and your knives and your blind faith in following someone else's rules. Your salutes and your unwillingness to face up to the realities of what your country means beyond your own borders. Shit, England and the UK did it a hundred years ago when we lost our stupid little Empire, and you'll have to do it yourself soon enough, constitution or no.
Yes, we don't execute people for their crimes. Do you know why? Because we're not savages. We're not, as Europeans and the many other countries that do not resort to such thuggery, living in the past. I don't care if they spend a million pounds so someone isn't butchered, it's money well spent so that we do not, and never return back to that barbarous and inhuman practice of sanctioned murder. An eye for an eye is only for those stupid enough to put their faith in a 2,000 year old book (want to talk about the hypocrisy of a free country that pledges allegiance to a god? And how you're not a republic at all but a Christian Theocrocy? There's plenty there to discuss).
Again I say, make a point and I'll address it. I can go on and on about what you've done, what you're doing, and what you plan to do as a country. I can show you all the reason why you shouldn't blindly salute a flag, or even have much more than disgust for that ragged piece of cloth. Would you have us talk about the torture, rape and murder done under and sanctioned by the US Military? There are plenty of examples of such - Abu Graihb, Guantanemo, the newly discovered Iraqi detention centres? Would you have us go, point by point, picture by picture, through the atrocities performed by US soldiers with that same patriotic fervour that you, and the other Mobileread New Patriots, exhibit? Or should we go to the arms sales to dictatorships used to wipe out significant portions of ethnic populations? Shall we go to the shameful treatment of the Katrina victims? Or perhaps the unenforced rules and blind-eyes turned by your governments that resulted in the BP oil spill? Shall we investigate the money given to Israel to murder civilians in occupied territories?
Here is what your flag has come to represnet for most, the images that come to mind every single time we hear about the stars and stripes and your stupid freedom (which you don't even have)
Want more? I have plenty from Amnesty International along with the thousands upon thousand of crimes against humanity performed in the name of 'America' and your constitution.
On 11/09/2001 America had the world on its side (and don't think that Muslims all over the world weren't with you either). You could have brought in an era of peace and understanding, an era of new co-operation. You could have built a monument in the honour of the 2,0000 + dead in those towers merely with actions alone. Instead you picked up the gun, saddled your horse, and started wars that still haven't ended. You know where your flag is now? It's burned in the dusty streets of a foreign land where the orphaned children have nothing but revenge in their hearts. It's draped over the coffins of young men and women too stupid or blinded by patriotism to question why they were fighting and if it would do any good. It flies at half mast on lawns across your nation, a reminder, forever that the price of your freedom is the death of others, the violent insertion of your way of life into that of others. It's in the offices of CEO's who rub their hands together thinking of all the money this devastation is going to bring in.
Don't talk to me of constitutions when you continually trample on the world. No piece of paper gives you that right. And so, ignore the world, fine, live in your little Disney fantasy of what America might have been, but it isn't, and you know deep down it never will be what that piece of paper set it out to be. From your economics, to your excursions in the sand, your country is an exemplar of greed, violence and ignorance.
Long live America. Home of the unquestioning. Land of the slave.