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Originally Posted by Moejoe
America's history is that of all Empires - conquest, violence, torture and brutality. Your constitution has never actually been followed, in spirit or in law during the lifespan of your country and it never will be as long as money and property are valued above life and liberty. I'm not just talking the last 20 years either which have America ranked as one of the highest in human rights abuses, I'm talking about Vietnam, the Philippines, Korea, Cuba, El Salvador, Grenada, Laos, Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Chile, Argentina, Ireland, Israel (especially American involvement and money that funds the terrorism of the Israeli state) the list of countries and the poor people within those countries that America has slaughtered or helped slaughter is astounding (Britain too, most of ours was pre 1900, still no excuse).
Your endless support as a country for dictators and the setting up of puppet regimes is sickening. The shameless acts of the CIA in South American countries and across Europe boggles the mind. The torture camps, the disinformation, the lies, always the lies. Your constitution is a piece of paper designed by slave traders who wanted more freedom (shamelessly cribbed from George Carlin).
As long as Guantanemo exists, as long as Leonard Peltier remains in prison, as long as corporations get away with murder because they have money, as long as you continually execute the mentally handicapped, your constitution isn't even worthy as toilet paper. You do realise that most of the civilised world stopped executing criminals sixty years ago, don't you? Your country now is little more than a crumbling Empire, a laughing stock across the world, the enemy of most thinking people. You live in a slave nation where one of your biggest industries is imprisonment and law enforcement (look at all Empires and see the same). Your culture is money orientated, profit based and violent, so bloody violent that most people in the world look at you and wag their heads in disbelief. That constitution you say you try to uphold, means nothing. The freedoms it guarantees don't exist, the laws it means to uphold have been overturned, the life and liberty you are supposed to have as a people is reserved only for those who can afford such and those who can't afford such are the most vocal in supporting their own oppressors.
Maybe you don't understand this, but I know there are many Americans who do, every single time that flag flies it does not represent the best of what you can be or have been, no matter how hard you wish it could. The wars you've started, the freedoms you've taken in the name of your own freedom, the children and women who have died to add zeroes to a war profiteers bank balance. That's your real constitution. Your true legacy in the world.
Rome is burning, your flag is the seal of Empire. All Empire's fall. Yours is falling now and you just can't see it.
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Dude, you need a radio show.
Everyone sees something different in the flag, and the European countries can go jump on the log, I don't care. Yeah, America has screwed up, so has every other country. Aye, our leaders have lied, and are lieing now, that doesn't mean that we can't stop them. And you know what? We are falling! The great thing about our country is that aye, we're going to fall, just like every other bloody country, but that little piece of paper that you claim has always meant nothing will live on, because while the majority may not claim it, its a bloody good bit of writing.
Aye, so other countries have stopped executing criminals, instead you pay for them to live a better life than your less dangerous homeless. Your kidnappings, your organized crime, and your rampant outcries against anyone different are shameful. You claim to have the upper hand in societal ways (and you always have) but its all a bunch of sensationalist garbage.
Oh, wooptie-bloody-doo, you can name all of our failures! That is just amazing, I'm so glad your learned enough to do that. What you've evidently failed to grasp in your existence is how to actually make people think. It is a shameful little song and dance you sing, talking about not wanting to be violent and everyone should work things out, but you can't hold a bloody civil conversation! The first chance you get, you throw around insults and ignore any points that you can't handle addressing.
Your discrediting yourself and invalidating all the crap that you spew. I enjoy having intellectual discussions and debates, there have been and will be (I sincerely hope so anyway) people who have opened my eyes to things that I would never have been aware of before. I really hoped you would be one of them, but you can't stop slinging your crap long enough to hit on a different point. We bloody well understand you are anti-American, thats great, but if that is all you are I'm seriously doubting your ability to reason.
Please, prove me wrong and argue a topic, don't insult everyone that disagrees with you.
And yes, I'm all for owning guns. Until you can remove the ability for one person to harm another entirely from the gene pool, I'm going to carry my guns and knives with the hope that any money spent will be a bloody waste and I'll never have to use them.