Well, what I saw, having read all the posts, is this:
Bilbo said what he thought astra actually meant by his 'demagogy' comment. Even if the wording of the translation could be more polite, that is the meaning I got from it too.
Recluse then re-translated astra's comment, and even if it was in answer to Bilbo, it was actually referring to the people talking before. One of them was me, one of them was Moejoe. So I take it that we were called non-entities.
Dropping words like 'demagogy' or 'non-entity' doesn't serve to prove any point.
I'm just clarifying here for Am and anyone else who wonders.
I don't want to fight with anyone. I don't think it's worth it. This feels a lot like kindergarten (he said, she said, he called me ..., and so on). Bye now.
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