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nerys · 09-04-2007, 09:37 PM

You intentionally ignore my points and intentionally raise points of irrelevance???

Lights that confuse with emergency? Illogical comparison APPLES TO ORANGES

Lights in GENERAL would be correct. When it comes to lighting we have SAFETY concerns. Legitimate valid functional safety concerns. As long as what you want to change to MEETS these LEGITIMATE safety concerns you ARE FREE to change them.

AGAIN apples to oranges. I SAID MANUFACTURER making it illegal. YOU are not talking about the manufacturer of the car you are talking about the POLICE who have NOTHING to do with the manufacture of the car.

I can walk into pep boys right not and select from DOZENS of different tires and wheels to put on my car and FORD or Mercedes can not say a THING to be about it.

I IN FACT CAN walk into a dealership and say I do not like those wheels do you have others. almost all of them will say CERTAINLY and show me the range of wheels tire packages they have.

There is a DISTINCT difference between NOT HAVING TO OFFER (your example) and PREVENTING ME FROM DOING regardless of source (MY EXAMPLE)

YOU are not stupid. You clearly have enough intelligence to use the computer you typed your reply on and you seem able to coherently speak this language. SO since I can not call you stupid I must call you "trying to force your view" because you simply disagree with my view all while clearly not understanding MY view to begin with.

What property was taken exactly? I PURCHASE a book "crack" the DRM and put that book on a different reader. Please enlighten me as to what damages I incurred onto them and what exactly did I fail to pay for?

Once again. I also did not pay for the book at the library. I do not even pay a membership fee. SO what damages?

I borrow a book from a friend. I am READING IT without PAYING FOR IT. I should goto jail?

The law is wrong. This is not in dispute. anyone who stops and thinks about it will clearly understand this.

When a law is wrong you THROW IT OUT. If they refuse to through it out YOU OPENLY DEFY IT. Eventually they will reach a LIMIT on how many people they can SUE and the law becomes moot. AS IT SHOULD.

On top of that the DMCA is not even law. It illegal and was NULL AND VOID the moment it was conceived. The fact that it is "enforced" does not change that it is illegal. AND its illegality is NOT an opinion. It is an absolute FACT. there is ZERO ambiguity in the first amendment. It says CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW ....

Its not about the majority of the people agreeing with me (they do) its about them actually being motivated enough to CARE and actually stand up and say NO. We are a country of sheeple.

When the founding fathers formed this great nation they were CRIMINALS. This is indisputable fact. What they did was HIGH TREASON they can and should have been HUNG for it. They were TRAITORS. But what they did was the RIGHT thing to do.

NOTE once we formed our nation guess what we did? we made the VERY ACT that allowed this nation to be formed (secession) Illegal. Cute ehh?

YOU need to learn how FREEDOM works. its not FREE it will not be HANDED to you. When the law is WRONG people do not CHANGE to fit the law the LAW CHANGES to fit us. That is how it is supposed to work. When the normal system of checks and balances proves to be a complete and utter failure the ONLY patriotic option left MY DUTY as defined by said constitution is to DEFY said law. While not applicable to THIS situation directly its still good analogy.

Every wonder WHY the 1st amendment is what it is and the 2nd is what it is?

The 1st it to make clear to the government we will TELL you how it should be done.
The 2nd is if they IGNORE the first and now we will COMPEL them to do what is right.

Clearly THIS situation would never require guns but it will require bearing arms. The arms ie WILL to DEFY the law and say "now what?" The analogy is valid.

I do not do as the law commands. I do as my moral compass demands. In most cases there is no conflict between the law and my moral compass. In this one there is.

As to corporate rights. They are privileges. Only citizens have rights IE can not be taken away without just cause. Corporate rights are Granted by law and are therefore revocable by law. LAW CAN NOT REVOKE MY RIGHTS. Thats why they are called inalienable.

THE DMCA takes away my right to free speech. THIS IS NOT LEGAL. the 1st amendment makes this VERY clear. Therefore the DMCA is NOT LAW and is being illegally enforced. Period. Prove me wrong? SHOW me anywhere in the constitution where the 1st amendment was revoked?

SHOW ME the law that says that a corporation can dictate what I can do with my personal property in my own home (NOT counting stupid stuff like killing people)

Please show me this law? (not counting the DMCA since its invalid)

IF YOU CAN find a law explain to me how this would not be a direct violation of my 4th amendment rights? (remember NO contract is signed here)

I await your reply. Please try not to pick examples that you RIGHT WELL know are NOT relevant to this discussion. Safety lights???? Your kidding right?

09-04-2007, 09:37 PM	#33
nerys Addict Posts: 243 Karma: 48 Join Date: Dec 2006 Device: PRS 500 - REB 1200	You intentionally ignore my points and intentionally raise points of irrelevance??? Lights that confuse with emergency? Illogical comparison APPLES TO ORANGES Lights in GENERAL would be correct. When it comes to lighting we have SAFETY concerns. Legitimate valid functional safety concerns. As long as what you want to change to MEETS these LEGITIMATE safety concerns you ARE FREE to change them. AGAIN apples to oranges. I SAID MANUFACTURER making it illegal. YOU are not talking about the manufacturer of the car you are talking about the POLICE who have NOTHING to do with the manufacture of the car. I can walk into pep boys right not and select from DOZENS of different tires and wheels to put on my car and FORD or Mercedes can not say a THING to be about it. I IN FACT CAN walk into a dealership and say I do not like those wheels do you have others. almost all of them will say CERTAINLY and show me the range of wheels tire packages they have. There is a DISTINCT difference between NOT HAVING TO OFFER (your example) and PREVENTING ME FROM DOING regardless of source (MY EXAMPLE) YOU are not stupid. You clearly have enough intelligence to use the computer you typed your reply on and you seem able to coherently speak this language. SO since I can not call you stupid I must call you "trying to force your view" because you simply disagree with my view all while clearly not understanding MY view to begin with. What property was taken exactly? I PURCHASE a book "crack" the DRM and put that book on a different reader. Please enlighten me as to what damages I incurred onto them and what exactly did I fail to pay for? Once again. I also did not pay for the book at the library. I do not even pay a membership fee. SO what damages? I borrow a book from a friend. I am READING IT without PAYING FOR IT. I should goto jail? The law is wrong. This is not in dispute. anyone who stops and thinks about it will clearly understand this. When a law is wrong you THROW IT OUT. If they refuse to through it out YOU OPENLY DEFY IT. Eventually they will reach a LIMIT on how many people they can SUE and the law becomes moot. AS IT SHOULD. On top of that the DMCA is not even law. It illegal and was NULL AND VOID the moment it was conceived. The fact that it is "enforced" does not change that it is illegal. AND its illegality is NOT an opinion. It is an absolute FACT. there is ZERO ambiguity in the first amendment. It says CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW .... Its not about the majority of the people agreeing with me (they do) its about them actually being motivated enough to CARE and actually stand up and say NO. We are a country of sheeple. When the founding fathers formed this great nation they were CRIMINALS. This is indisputable fact. What they did was HIGH TREASON they can and should have been HUNG for it. They were TRAITORS. But what they did was the RIGHT thing to do. NOTE once we formed our nation guess what we did? we made the VERY ACT that allowed this nation to be formed (secession) Illegal. Cute ehh? YOU need to learn how FREEDOM works. its not FREE it will not be HANDED to you. When the law is WRONG people do not CHANGE to fit the law the LAW CHANGES to fit us. That is how it is supposed to work. When the normal system of checks and balances proves to be a complete and utter failure the ONLY patriotic option left MY DUTY as defined by said constitution is to DEFY said law. While not applicable to THIS situation directly its still good analogy. Every wonder WHY the 1st amendment is what it is and the 2nd is what it is? The 1st it to make clear to the government we will TELL you how it should be done. The 2nd is if they IGNORE the first and now we will COMPEL them to do what is right. Clearly THIS situation would never require guns but it will require bearing arms. The arms ie WILL to DEFY the law and say "now what?" The analogy is valid. I do not do as the law commands. I do as my moral compass demands. In most cases there is no conflict between the law and my moral compass. In this one there is. As to corporate rights. They are privileges. Only citizens have rights IE can not be taken away without just cause. Corporate rights are Granted by law and are therefore revocable by law. LAW CAN NOT REVOKE MY RIGHTS. Thats why they are called inalienable. THE DMCA takes away my right to free speech. THIS IS NOT LEGAL. the 1st amendment makes this VERY clear. Therefore the DMCA is NOT LAW and is being illegally enforced. Period. Prove me wrong? SHOW me anywhere in the constitution where the 1st amendment was revoked? SHOW ME the law that says that a corporation can dictate what I can do with my personal property in my own home (NOT counting stupid stuff like killing people) Please show me this law? (not counting the DMCA since its invalid) IF YOU CAN find a law explain to me how this would not be a direct violation of my 4th amendment rights? (remember NO contract is signed here) I await your reply. Please try not to pick examples that you RIGHT WELL know are NOT relevant to this discussion. Safety lights???? Your kidding right?