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Originally Posted by kennyc
and not to go too far off topic, but this is exactly the kind of thing that gets brought up over and over in the "pirate" threads (alluded to above) with those supporting the pirates (alluded to above) claiming that the rights of the public and the public domain trump the rights of the creator of the work which is simply wrong.
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The rights of the public and the public domain do. This is the point where you stop reading and stop attacking me, try listening to the argument for once. Disney didn't pay Hans Chrisitan Anderson when they made the Little Mermaid. The didn't pay the Brothers Grimm when they made Cinderella, and you don't have to pay royalties on those either. But that's just a bonus the money you always focus on is the icing on the cake. When Disney made the black hole they not only didn't have to pay Shakespeare for the tempest, they were free and here's another place you seem to miss the point, free as in libre, liberty, free as in freed the slaves, free to change the story and set it in space. That's the public domain. My argument over and over has been life+70 years is way to gods damn long to wait for that, that is unfair and unjust. No one was saying an author can't try to make a buck but since the costs of copyright are borne by the people that they should see a return a bit sooner than 100 years, lots of numbers have been floated around we can haggle there.
I pointed out the purpose of copyright, I cited Thomas Jefferson about copyright length about the evil of monopolies. I was attacked some more. I also refused the condemn the pirates. Boo hooo hooo get over it you and i disagree that doesn't mean you get to call me names and then play innocent when the mods get involved. Then follow me to this thread when the other goes bad.
The copyright cartel have handled things badly, they sweat the small stuff, they hang on way too long to try and squeeze out a few more pennies, they sue their customers or at least the people who they want as customers.They jack up prices instead of trying to compete, they add drm, I promise you drm has created a lot of pirates. Do you know where my sig come from? The pirates of penzance where the pirate king sings he's far more honest than any of the "respectable" people in the world. So yes I'm on the side of the people who've been screwed over, as much as you claim to champion the artists you fight for their corporate overlords.
Let's go back on topic, it looks like the publisher is the one who pressured to take the book down. They didn't care about bad will with fans. But whatever its new, maybe it'll make money, maybe a lot of people will be turned off, I don't have a stake. It'd be hard to argue copyright shouldn't apply for the first few years and if someone wants to risk screwing over their future chances with fans that's their buisness. Sooner or later though that copyright needs to expire, the sooner the better from society's standpoint and then maybe the society will add something culture humanity has built up, maybe little references to it will be around in 400 years like Shakespeare, maybe everyone will forget it, whatever but the option will be there and it won't be there till the copyright expires.