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Old 05-19-2010, 02:33 PM   #128
Dusty Bottoms
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Originally Posted by afa View Post
Ah, yes. The age-old argument of file-sharers everywhere. Never mind the fact that I doubt you have any evidence to support the view that they buy more than non-sharers. I mean, who cares about proof, right? Oh, and keep in mind that this is coming from someone who downloads his fair share of media from the likes of Pirate Bay and EZTV.
For the sake of brevity, and because I've been having this same argument with the same people for the last year and a half, I omitted evidence. But, here it is again, for the hard of learning

Here's a random one because I'm just so tired of this argument and I'm not digging up ten just to prove the point: http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=138587



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Simply changing a word or two in that quote (as I have done above), and that argument could easily be used both ways.
Simply changing the word of any argument can alter the meaning completely and make the argument into something else. Faulty logic, and ill thought out. If I call a monkey a politician it doesn't make the politician a monkey (although nine times out of ten it would be hard to check). Not really worth a rebuttle, but, hey, I've got some time to spare at the moment.


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Yes, clearly. That's why publishers are obsolete, copyright doesn't exist, and all content creators and artists are providing their content for free. Oh, wait... that hasn't happened. Hmmmm... Maybe you haven't won yet, then? Who knows, maybe you will. And I'm fine with that. I have no vested interest in the publishing industry, so if you do win, I win, too.
Publishers aren't obsolete, nobody said they were (except you) but they do need to change their business model and take their head out of the sand before they do become obsolete. They have to adapt to an ongoing situation (which they seem to be wilfully ignoring, like many people in this argument). As to copyright it has become effectively useless for independent creators who can't hope to financially defend the illusion of their ownership. Copyright benefits corporations and those who can afford the lawyers to protect the copyright, nobody else.

And when I say we (italics all mine), I do mean all of us. I mean the creators, the audience and anyone else who wants to see creativity flourish and not be nailed down by corporates.

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That's a good point. Life + 70 really does seem excessive. I'm no writer, but even if I was, I think I'd be okay with it expiring with my death, and maybe even earlier, like 25 years.

Well I'm so glad that you don't have an iron in this fire, yet you want to give us all a heads up one what we as creators should do. However would we make decisions on what we should do creatively without people to tell us what they think who don't really care one way or the other?

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