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Old 05-16-2010, 08:19 AM   #228
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can we all point our fingers at Switzerland yet?

seriously. unless you have LIVED in a state that is dealing with the issue, I'm not sure there is room to talk. I loathed my time in California, watching how the immigrant workers legal or not were treated. I also know that the town I was closest to, Salinas, had at LEAST one muder a week and almost all of them were perpetuated on or by illegal immigrants. this is a huge problem that we MUST get under control. having a bunch of people that DON'T live in the reality trying to dictate "proper" responses sure as hell won't work.

I lived in Germany and saw how the "gast arbiters" were treated. I'm certain we'd play hell if we tried that here!

and as for the border states like... well Washington... we have an enhanced ID. takes a little bit more documentation to get it, but if you qualify not an issue. personally, I've kept my passport valid since I was a soldier. there never seemed to be a real good reason not to. Europeans dealt with it all the time
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