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Originally Posted by Joebill
While I have no problem with viable alternatives to oil, there are presently none.
Making all those extra batteries is highly polluting.
The only present way to make the gigawatts of electricity needed to charge a nation of electric cars and busses every night is this: nuclear power plants and coal fired boilers to generate steam then eletricity.
Yes, there are windmills, but they cause environmental damage, and they have to be where the wind is constant enough to turn the wind mills and generate electricity. The bigger the blades the higher the wind speed has to be. I checked into this in 1977 and I watch recent documentaries. it just doesn't work, still experimental.
Solar cells: incredibly poor quality. They just don't generate large quatities of electricty with small amounts of solar cells.
For an environmental science class in 1990 I did the research for viable powerr generation. Coal and nuclear was it, with water/dams a distant third.
The rest are barely out of alpha test stage.
I would love to see a viable alternative, but it doesn't exist now.
Oh, corn into oil. Well, there is a weed, not a food product, that gives more oil per acre than corn does. But it is being ignored because farmers don't grow it.
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That's what I said about those searching for ONE alternative to oil being binary. Oil, nothing, Oil, nothing... Good grief!
A panacea can not be found. It doesn't exist. There's a great big bag of tricks available and one chooses what is available and safest for the job and the environment about. It is not easy, it requires effort, investment. And first a will to save, to make changes to one's wasteful ways. Thought.
If you haven't looked at improvements since 1990 you're way out of touch. You can't judge alternatives on such old information.
There are other wind generators than windmills available.
Batteries are recyclable in their entirety, every part of them. The few companies offering an EV on the market take spent batteries back at the end of the cycle to recycle them. Nissan's Leaf is sold without the battery. You lease it in a separate contract. You don't own it.
Just visit someone who lives with off grid solar and tell them to their faces that it doesn't work...
Liquid fuel and hydrogen research are alternatives being studied by the oil producers in a way
they could have an alternative to maintain
their cartel alive. They will do everything in their power to dissipate anyone's will to do better without them. They will lie and exploit laziness for profit.
Car makers today are toy makers. They sell iPod holders and gadgets. The economy they sell is a lie, a blatant lie...
You want gadgets? Okay, but you have to realize that the weight of that luxury is a third of the weight of that car. That takes extra fuel, full time...
Geez, listen to me! I knew I'd wind myself this way... eventually.
This is my last post on this thread.
See you elsewhere...