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To the first definitely.
To the second, not so much. People can go to0 far and too long and complaining about what features are missing etc. But as long as it's limited to threads about the pros and cons of the device--be it general threads discussing them as a whole or threads on specific ones about things like Flash--I don't see the problem.
A main purpose of the device specific forums if for people curious about a device to come and read up on it and get a clear sense of the pros and cons of a device, of what it can or can't do. So it's healthy to have these pro and con threads.
If someone is getting out of hand to the point of trolling every thread to post the negatives, then that's on you mods to step in and limit it, put rules about it in place etc. And I'd support that.
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