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Old 04-27-2010, 11:37 PM   #61
Greg Anos
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Originally Posted by Steve Jordan View Post
I disagree. ID cards are all about identifying yourself, to make sure you are accorded the rights to which you are guaranteed by your government (or whoever assigned you the card). Or, to put another way, to make sure those rights are not taken from you, or mistakenly given to someone who did not earn them.

I can readily see how someone who is used to taking benefits from a system they did not support or pay into, would resent the issuance of IDs that would prevent them from doing so in the future.

I have a harder time understanding those who refuse to use ID cards that would prove that they, and not someone else, were eligible for a service their taxes and citizenship supported.

And remember: In the U.S., if you don't like your state, no one is preventing you from leaving...

Our disagreement is who is granting who rights... I feel that the US was founded upon the citizens granting the government rights, from the anarchistic freedoms naturally endowed "by the creator" (to quote Jefferson); not the government granting the citizens rights (as the government sees fit) from the total control the government has over the people under it's dominion.

If people prefer the latter, there is a large number of countries to choose from. There are <bleeping> few of the former...
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