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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon
Actually, it's called bait. Which you just swallowed, hook line and sinker. Congratulations.
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So by replying I fell for your bait? darn your so smart. by replying to me did you fall for my bait? Im sorry I dont get why you feel the need to put bait down in the first place to try and 'catch me', we were after all already discussing this.
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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon
This is a lie. Apple change the rules on a regular basis without disclosing anything. They cannot know how the system works because Apple simply don't tell them!
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Oh come on its not a lie! is that hard for you to understand? you keep saying that Apple do this and that and basically can refuse an app for any reason! THAT IS how the system works thats it exactly we just described Apples system. anyone developing knows tha THAT is the system "my app may be declined for any stupid reason"
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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon
No, the majority are - rightly - getting out of iDevice development. Including some people who have been Apple evangelists for years.
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Great because rather than whining and carrying on developing THIS is the only thing that will cause Apple to change!
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Yes, becuase it's perfectly reasonable for a company to reject apps based on a super-sekrit system which changes on a regular basis according to their whims, rather than acting like a company in the modern era and actually telling people - like other devices which require approval - what the criteria are. Other devices have TRC's which are hundreds of pages long. Apple? Develop up front and then get screwed! What a wonderful developer-friendly business model.
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of course its not developer friendly! but devs have the brains to know this and tomake a choice as to develop for Apple or dont!
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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon
Remember, Apple prohibit you from submitting the same app elsewhere, even if it's rejected! Oh right, you'd need to know that in the first place to remember, sigh.
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yet again you know it so why would a dev not know that? the dev has a choice to make they dont HAVE to develop for Apple.
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Increasingly they're not. The Android store's rapid rise in apps - apparently nearly 7000 in the last month - is testament to Apple's utter incompetence on this, and that was before their amazing anti-dev actions of the past few days with changes which would reject 90%+ of apps if they were new (and will block those apps from being updated!) and blocking them from using common multi-touch functionality!
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Great Competition is a good thing and whilst I think Apple will continue to lead the market again if they start to lose out maybe they will change how they operate.
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Yea, insert adds into other people's content and screw actually letting them make money with targeted ads, they have to have generic adverts! It's not active yet (although of course you believe otherwise), so devs can actually still get reasonable ad revenue for a while.
"Freeing up dev time" by smashing advert revenue (generic adverts pay a small fraction on targeted ones, again), creaming 40% of advert revenue off the reduced revenue, and forcing intrusive adverts into inappropriate places is amazingly pro-dev. Oh, wait.
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You dont have to use iAd! thats apples model and I imagine as its so awful and no one has to sign up for it then it will soon be appearing on 0 apps! or maybe some devs would like the opportunity to have apple manage their ads and are happy to pay 40%
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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon
Sigh. You don't understand the basics of how it works. Of how ANY of this works. You're just blindly pushing the view that Apple's actions, however bluntly ridiculous, can do no wrong.
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Yes i do understand! I just have a different opinion!
I understand that apples approval process can be ridiculous, COSTLY, unfair, etc etc for devs!
MY main point however is that we know that! so devs know that! and they dont have to choose to develop for apple so in my mind once they choose to develop for Apple knowing what we have just discussed then they made their bed and if they get rejected for some new made up reason well they will have to lie in it.
I defend Apples right to manage THEIR store and THEIR product however they want.
Try to remember Im not saying the way apple have managed the store and approval process are perfect or even great, what I will say is that so far they have been very sucessful and devs with good apps have made a lot of money and its up to apple what they do.
If I open a game shop and choose not to sell 18 rated games thats my choice If I decide not to sell games that I dont like for my own personel reasons that change each week then thats my choice! It should be no different for Apple.