[DawnFalcon]

Originally Posted by stustaff

I guess your referring to me? you could just act like a normal person and say who you are referring to, its all a bit childish and unnecessary. and maybe you mean someone else? oh well I'll reply.

Actually, it's called bait. Which you just swallowed, hook line and sinker. Congratulations.

The devs designing these apps KNOW how the system works

This is a lie. Apple change the rules on a regular basis without disclosing anything. They cannot know how the system works because Apple simply don't tell them!

You claim to know many devs, are they all stupid?

No, the majority are - rightly - getting out of iDevice development. Including some people who have been Apple evangelists for years.

Any dev who moans about having an app declined(whilst it being understandable that they would due to the frustration and anger and time wasted) needs to remember that they CHOSE to develop for an app system that has this situation around it.

Yes, becuase it's perfectly reasonable for a company to reject apps based on a super-sekrit system which changes on a regular basis according to their whims, rather than acting like a company in the modern era and actually telling people - like other devices which require approval - what the criteria are. Other devices have TRC's which are hundreds of pages long. Apple? Develop up front and then get screwed! What a wonderful developer-friendly business model.

Remember, Apple prohibit you from submitting the same app elsewhere, even if it's rejected! Oh right, you'd need to know that in the first place to remember, sigh.

and if they dont like it DONT DESIGN for it simple.

Increasingly they're not. The Android store's rapid rise in apps - apparently nearly 7000 in the last month - is testament to Apple's utter incompetence on this, and that was before their amazing anti-dev actions of the past few days with changes which would reject 90%+ of apps if they were new (and will block those apps from being updated!) and blocking them from using common multi-touch functionality!

iAd is awesome, I get apps in many free apps now and the apple ones looked no worse to me than any others.

Yea, insert adds into other people's content and screw actually letting them make money with targeted ads, they have to have generic adverts! It's not active yet (although of course you believe otherwise), so devs can actually still get reasonable ad revenue for a while.

"Freeing up dev time" by smashing advert revenue (generic adverts pay a small fraction on targeted ones, again), creaming 40% of advert revenue off the reduced revenue, and forcing intrusive adverts into inappropriate places is amazingly pro-dev. Oh, wait.

Do you know what devs could do though if they dont think it will be better for them.... NOT USE iAd!

Sigh. You don't understand the basics of how it works. Of how ANY of this works. You're just blindly pushing the view that Apple's actions, however bluntly ridiculous, can do no wrong.