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Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward
But I look at all the evidence, .....
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Hmmmm......and you are a practicing climate scientist? You have published papers in the field or theories in your name? If not, you are just more of the banter which I advocating ignoring.
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Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward
Leaving out what doesn't fit your theory is an old scientific trap, called "massaging the data". the more you look at the data, the more "massaged" it looks.
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Sorry Ralph, but that is not what science does. That's what the media and politicians and corporations with their own agendas do. As Sam Harris says, Science at its core is Intellectually Honesty.
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Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward
Where it gets "political", it the idea that we have to make drastic changes to our civilization - or else! The sort of changes that will lead to millions of deaths due to starvation over time. (How many people went hungry in the third world when we shifted corn from food to ethanol?) To channel Kenneth Mars in Young Frankenstein - "If ve're going to risk starving millions of peeple, ve need to demmed sure of our facts." Und ve aren't, no matter what your beliefs are.
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Um...no. Politics is as much about using the media to manipulate people as the media itself is. What I'm advocating is that decisions (particularly environmental decisions) that affect me and my loved ones as well as my children and grandchildren can and should be made based on the best science that is available, not based on what someone 'believes.' Facts not fiction. The Fact is that humans have caused global warming as well as overpopulation (and the two are linked). We must do what we can, as soon as we can to prevent the catastrophes that have already begun in drought stricken countries in Africa where people are dying by the thousands every day. It's not something this is going to happen because of what we do, it is something that is happening right now as I and you type these words. There are things we can do right now to address them. Will you?