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Old 03-19-2010, 01:02 AM   #107
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Originally Posted by danegeld View Post
I base it on nearly 20 years of daily use of Adobe products. There have been no bug-fix updates to Illustrator CS4. There's been one minor update to Photoshop CS4 and that didn't fix much. There were never any updates to Photoshop CS3. When was the last time you tried to get any customer service from Adobe?
Hm, you may want to check the Adobe support pages, before making some of the above statements.... Then you may have found this Photoshop CS3 update As well as 3 updates for Illustrator CS3 (2 English ones).

Again, I don't understand these all-out attacks on Adobe, because Apple' iPad cannot properly display widely used web pages.

Adobe makes generally good products, useful to a range of industries, and superior to the competition, including Apple's pretty lame Pro apps (some of which are hardly "pro" in any meaningful way).

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Flash is shocking on the CPU.
The basic problems of Flash CPU draining the battery and crashing the OS are what kept it off the iPad. If you look at the capabilities of the iPad and what publishers have already done (http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/...demonstration/) it doesn't 'need' flash for anything.

Also most OS X crashes are from flash crashing a web browser. One of the reasons Jobs hates it.
This is hardly true.

Flash runs perfectly fine on the vast majority of people's Macs. While it can be CPU intensive, so is displaying H.264 video, and both are handled fine by modern Macs.

On other platforms, including Windows and Android, the new version of Flash uses hardware acceleration, making possible true HD experience on low powered devices.

If one is so concerned about CPU usage, they should dump Safari, which is the biggest CPU and memory hog on both Macs and Windows, compared to other browsers, including Firefox and Chrome (and IE8). Plus, most crashes in Safari are due to Java issues, not Flash.

As to repeating Job's mantra that Flash is bad for battery life and CPU, so is playing a H.264 video. And if it was such a problem, perhaps working with Adobe the way MS and Google do, and providing needed information, would have solved whatever issues there are. If there can be hardware acceleration for Flash in the new Androids, why cannot the same be true for the iPhone/iPad, which is largely based on similar hardware?

Ah, but the real reason is, that Flash bypasses Job's idea of a "walled garden" and will likely put a dent in the estimated quarter of a billion Apple made from the Apps store last year. And hey, if I can watch Hulu on my iPad for free, why would I pay Apple to see the same stuff?

Finally, you did notice that the Wired presentation was build entirely by using Adobe products, right? It's an AIR app, which is basically Flash.

Then it can be converted to run on the iPad, but on other platforms, such as Android, it will run native. Which kind of makes platforms which support AIR and Flash much better for this kind of thing....

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