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Old 03-14-2010, 12:53 PM   #316
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Concepts of right and wrong are great - when you're teaching a child which can't yet understand or be interested in precise, real explanation. They're always needed for that, but at some point in life a man is expected to stop reasoning with those.
Are you saying that all concepts of right and wrong are completely arbitrary? If so, I would have to disagree. Certainly many modes of behavior vary from culture to culture, but I believe that there are certain standards that transcend cultures; among these are the proscriptions against murder and stealing from members of your tribe; and as civilization advances, I believe it to be a natural and evolutionary step to become ever more inclusive in terms of those who are included in the tribe. Even among individual tribes certain expectations of behavior exist such that when those expectations are violated, retribution is exacted.

As for children; we can learn much from them in this regard. Early on, the majority come to recognize the importance of fair-play. How many times have you heard a child declare, "That's not fair!" in response to a slight? Perhaps the Unitarian-Universalist minister Robert Fulghum had it right when he said "All I Really Need To Know I Learned In Kindergarten."

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Ethics are like esperanto - trying to copy, analyze and adapt to reality, but really artificial. Some people speak esperanto, but it never really caught on. That doesn't mean each society doesn't have its own rules, only that they can rarely be described with simple words, and so speaking of the world in such general terms as ethics is a hopeless simplification.
Esperanto is perhaps the best failed idea in all of the 20th century. Personally, I wish it had succeeded worldwide, but it was probably doomed from the start; if only because of religious opposition to the idea.

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Justice, justifications, courts and legalities are a way to show who's in control without unnecessary bloodshed, as always.

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