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Old 07-14-2007, 10:07 PM   #129
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Originally Posted by slayda View Post
This is a circular argument used by those in religious circles (no pun intended) to prove the existence of god. Once accepted it follows that since there is morality then there in an infinite personal god - QED. However every religion claims god as their very own, implying that the remainder of humanity is therefore immoral.
This is not the only piece of evidence for an Infinite Personal God. Schaeffer develops a three-fold argument, morality being the easiest to discuss in circles like these -- and it just happened to be closely on-topic. Also, an "iff" statement is not a circular argument, it's a logical construct.

Now, while I absolutely understand your problem with "every religion claim[ing] god as their own" that does not preclude the existence of an Infinite Personal God. Nor would I even count it as evidence against an Infinite Personal God.

As Mark Knopfler so eloquently put it "Two of them claim their Jesus / One of them must be lying." Note that he doesn't say two of them must be lying. Yes, I'm being both silly and serious at the same time... the serious part being that someone being wrong about God doesn't make everyone wrong about God.

Are we far enough afield yet?

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