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Old 03-01-2010, 11:04 AM   #334
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Originally Posted by kennyc View Post
...but when the majority of top scientists in the field look at the actual data (not writings about it) and all agree (with a few exceptions of course - that's how science works) that Global Warming is real and is caused by humans...
This one has already been dealt with on page 11.....

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Not so I'm afraid:
Look up the
'Oregon Petition' 19,700 against and
'The Global Warming Petition Project' 31,486 againt
(And they both have quite a number of scientists who have signed up)
Granted, the same scientist may have signed both, but, either of these on it's own has more signatories than the report that was presented at Koyoto, for the agreement (I think it was around 3,300 scientist signatories, but annoyingly cannot find the actual numbers - sorry)

So the commonly stated 'Fact' of ' Most climate scientists agree' is in actual fact, actually not a fact..
Agreed a lot of these signatories are not global warming / climate change specialists, But a lot also are, and there are those who have cited they are afraid to put their name to various writings (againt) for fear of losing grants.

I understand a theory must be able to explain ALL possible data at the time of theorising, and is then tested against new data as it becomes avaiable, if it still fits the new data the theory stands, if not the theory fails.

All these 'Experts' wo have signed up for, seem to have problems explaining why (some) Ice core samples have indicated that CO2 goes up after a warming period IF CO2 is a cause of warming (as currently cited), therefore they ignore those ice samples, presuming them to be erroneous. Simply ignoring data as erroneous, because it does not fit your already presumed results is not good science, this is how bad theories are made...
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