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{Oh? A standard so arcane major browsers can't do it properly? A standard which killed off WYSIWYG editors which were coming along nicely before? No, CSS is most certainly to blame.

Again you claim falsely that WYSIWYG editors have fallen off in usage.

And while no other browser does CSS perfectly, everything except IE is close enough that's it's not really an issue. And IE's noncompliance is deliberate.

Absolute and total nonsense. There is a good reason basically every single program out there for the mass market is WYSIWYG, whereas WYSIWYM programs are for highly technical specialists in narrow markets.

WYSIWYM is not made for specialized disciplines! What gave you that idea? You are using one right now to post this message on MobileRead. They are standard on most blogs software. They are becoming more and more common as the web is offering more and more people the chance to post content. This is a little less WYSIWYM than I would find ideal: I'd prefer that italics look in italics and bold looks in bold, the way they do in LyX, and more functions of course, but it's close.

But even if some mark-up tags remain, surely they're not rocket science. You yourself did a virtual "/sarcasm" earlier, which is something i'm seeing more and more of, which suggests people could easily get used to such things.

There is good reason to separate them in terms of files, yes. But not in the UI presented to the user of the program: that simply needs to be managed such that you generate form and function files by using, for example, stylesets.

Managed user interfaces that give you a choice of stylesets is precisely what I advocated earlier and you mocked. This is precisely what WYSIWYM editors do, and it's precisely what I'm advocating.

So basically you want to disenfranchise people from making websites, keeping it to the realm of the specialists. Lovely! It's precisely that attitude which I intensely dislike.

You are fully of incorrect assumptions about what I'm advocating.

(And "intuitive" means it cannot contain ANY visible scripting, let alone coding ofc...)

Download and try LyX. You'll see that's precisely what it's like. It's got less visible code than Mobileread's "Go Advanced" does.