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Old 02-27-2010, 10:41 PM   #99
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"Although you don't own the content, you own the package"

INCORRECT. you own the package and ANYTHING IT CONTAINS. Period. end of Discussion.

the words on that page belong to you. Period. now if you make a copy those NEW WORDS do not belong to you if you try to give them away (for free or for sale) because now you violate IPR. (intellectual property rights)

"As you note, you can't buy a used copy of software as you're buying a license."

this is total BS. you can not buy a used copy for ONE REASON only the store won't SELL used copies because it gives them a "apparently" valid excuse to force you to buy a NEW copy at full price. No other reason.

I do not recognize "license" for PPR purposes (personal Property Rights)

its mind to do with as I please and any license eula or agreement or contract is null voild invalid and 100% unenforceable. Period.

NOW once it goes beyond PPR to IPR now and ONLY NOW does that eula license or agreement come into play or have any power.

I will not deviate from this thought process. neither should you. the sooner enough of us think this way the sooner the laws change.

"And that is exactly at the core of it and what COPYRIGHT is about it has nothing to do with the physical item it's the RIGHT TO COPY, which is granted by law to the original creator of the item (whether a book, story, movie, music, ...)."

Patently false.

it has nothing to do with the RIGHT TO COPY. you COPY the book as you read it into the cells in your brain.

it has to do with control the DISTRIBUTION OF COPIES not any actual COPYING.

THIS is what copyright is supposed to be about. Nothing more. To prevent another publisher from making and selling copies. TO prevent someone from making a movie without your consent. To prevent someone from COPYING IT AND DISTRIBUTING IT without an agreement from you the author.

this is what copyright is and should and was about. Control over who profits from it even if the profit is ZERO. that control should reside with the AUTHOR ONLY.

once I lawfully (ie with permission) acquire a copy of a work that copy is now MY PROPERTY. anything I do to it with it under the guise of "MY PROPERTY" is my lawful right.

if I want to cut each word out of a paper book and glue it onto my walls in my home that is my lawful right its MY PROPERTY.

if I can to scan it into my computer. My property MY right. If I want to READ it into a tape recorder so I can play it back MY PROPERTY MY RIGHT.

NOW what about giving you a copy. Well now you have a problem. you see the moment i hand you a copy its now YOUR PROPERTY I created a NEW PROPERTY not my own.

THIS is where copyright comes into play and the ONLY TIME copyright should come into play. YOU did not have permission to have a copy of that content. I DID NOT have permission to GIVE you a copy of that content.

THIS is the difference between IPR AND PPR.

The contention that copying it should be illegal because it COULD RESULT in me giving a copy away is total BS and anyone with half a brain knows this.

you do NOT have my permission to take away my PPR because you THINK I might violate your IPR.

Otherwise Guns Knives and even so much as LEAVING YOUR HOUSE would be illegal because YOU COULD do something illegal.

BS.

"If I buy an e-book, I could strip the DRM, keep my copy and give it to multiple friends,"

Your kidding right? any idea how hard it is to SEPARATE the content from a paper book? HINT. NOT FREAKING HARD.

give me 1 hour with a camera/scanner and I can convert just about any hard book into a digital book and have it online 3 minutes later. I can do this many many times faster than I can read it. Its painfully easy to do.

They are TWO SEPARATE ACTS.

Giving a copy to your friend is illegal whether it has DRM OR NOT.

Giving an ebook to your friend and DELETING THE COPY YOU HAVE is no different than handing them the hard book.

If your NOT a Moral person DRM is nothing more than about 20 seconds google solution away to give out copies of the content.

If you are a moral person DRM is punishment and a headache for doing NOTHING WRONG and a DIRECT VIOLATION of your Personal Property Rights. its literally THEFT of your property.

Last edited by nerys; 02-27-2010 at 10:45 PM.
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