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Old 02-25-2010, 03:17 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Ken Maltby View Post
It is all well and good to take a manufacturer's claims into consideration.
Their descriptions of the benefits of their own special technological
development, their special ingredient, might be better taken with a grain
of salt, though.
I'm skeptical of any company's claim, but in this case Sanyo is not exaggerating one single bit. Their claim is backed up by many users findings of the product performing, or even outperforming, the marketing claims.

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That you buy a particular company's claim and find another company to
be less committed to an agenda, is all a personal/subjective opinion. That
you can find others that share that opinion, adds to the impact of the
opinion but tells us nothing about its validity - particularly as relates to
the one piece of equipment under discussion the JBL.
Personal/subjective, maybe. I can tell you Sanyo manufactures no primary cells (non-rechargable), but Energizer is still heavily invested in non-rechargable (read: throw away). So, tell me, who is the more forward looking company?

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I have no horse in this race. If we can find rechargable batteries with a "better"
performance -in the JBL, then I would be very interested. It would be very easy
to find those who claim to have made a "better" battery, and those who are very
enthusiastic about them. They may even be right, but until we have a comparison
of their performance in the JBL, it is all conjecture based on theoretical claims.
No horse, and not even a contender without some good data. I've provided links with tests.

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Luck;
Ken

P.S. I also find the Thomas Distributing site very interesting.
Luck has nothing to do with it. Facts are my driving motivator.


Did you even take the time to read the links? It has nothing, absolutely zero to do with me *thinking* the Eneloop's consistently outperform other NiMh rechargeable, or taking Sanyo's word for it. It has everything to do with many different people testing them in different devices and coming to the same conclusion. If you have some data to prove the Energizer 2300 is more suited, please provide the information. Fact is, the JBL is just a device that consumes energy, whether that is slow or fast is the main point of consideration. The Eneloop excells at high Amperage demands, and yet handles the "sipper" devices as well.

I have used and tested the following:
Energizer 1850 NiMh
Energizer 2200 NiMh
Energizer 2500 NiMh
Duracell 2650 NiMh
Sanyo 2700 NiMh
Maha PowerEx 2500 NiMh
Maha PowerEx 2700 NiMh
Sanyo Eneloop 2000 NiMh

My charger/discharger/tester (I have two): Maha MH-C9000

I also have two of the following hobby chargers: iCharger 208B

Your experience is?

How about this: one more, and very thorough test. It even got the attention of Sanyo Europe. Link

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