[Ben Thornton]

Originally Posted by Kevin2960

Ben you are so out of order, although not directly saying it, you imply that those who disagree with you, and or believe that some of the practices of some people on this site amount to Theft, are nothing more than child molesters,

Not at all. My point in a previous post was that calling people thieves was not pleasant, and that people could make up all sorts of arguments to use emotive labels - and I picked an especially emotive one on purpose, of course. The point here is that it is, in fact, harmful to the younger generation to label them all as thieves and attempt to legislate against them - as Baranados are keen to point out in the context of labelling children as hooligans etc.

I've had enough, i refuse to take part on this thread anymore, you obviously started it following our previous discusions to stir up arguements,

My starting this thread was nothing to do with you - it was to find out what people thought (that's what a poll is for), to get beyond the piracy is good/bad debate to a more nuanced discussion (some hope there, it seems).

You seem quick to take offence, but while you (and others) have been happy to call people thieves, talk about stealing, some saying that most people are thieves nowadays etc. - I have not made such sweeping statements. I find this labelling to be out of order. In contrast, I said:

This emotive language is not appropriate. If I consider my posts as my children, and anyone who disagrees with me as molesting my posts, should I refer to their actions as child molesting? Might that upset them? It would be inappropriate because what people mean by child molesting is different to what they are doing.

To spell this out in words of one syllable, it meant: "Stop calling people thieves - how would you like being called names?". In my more recent post, having found the article on the BBC which I felt was appropriate given the ranting agains the younger generation on this thread, I said:

Perhaps my idea of asking whether people crying "thief" would like to be called "child molesters" has more merit than I had imagined. By legislating against a younger generation perceived as having lower morals, the older generation in power does indeed harm their children.

My point being that it is harming children to have this kind of attitude towards them.

I had thought you had the capacity to be a decent person, boy did i get that wrong !!!

I suggest that you review your language and mine. I have refrained from responding in kind to people who sling around emotive terms and moral certainties - and now insults. Look to the beam in your own eye.