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Old 02-14-2010, 01:15 AM   #85
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Originally Posted by Demas View Post
By excluding the very factors that allow something into a consumers hands you've somewhat undermined the discussion you want to have, which I presume, you only want to come out as e-ink.
I wanted to have a discussion about good displays for reading, and since the thread was about eye strain, I wanted to talk about good displays for reading while limiting eye strain. I thought screen contrast and brightness would be important factors towards that discussion, as opposed to other things...

But this thread seems to be all over the place:
  • E-ink is a narrow focus dead-end technology
  • Netbook vs notebook vs tablet vs reader vs smartphone
  • Pixelqi is new and better than e-ink
  • Multi-purpose vs narrow-purpose device
  • The answer to any request is 'yes' if you have money.

It seems like you have a lot to say on several related topics but do you think it would be more focused to start a new thread instead?

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Originally Posted by Demas View Post
But in any case, if you want to ignore cost restraints, LCD can provide the closest paper experience if purpose built to do that... it's just cost prohibitive. LCD can do it, but it'd be stupid to do it... you'd add diffuse layer on the glass to scatter light, you'd build a crazy expensive substrate for perfect viewing angles, you'd get perfect whites and blacks, etc... but you'd also go broke for a product no one wants at that price.
When I said I didn't want to talk about cost, I meant to keep the discussion on topic in regards to eye strain. I also did carefully mention to limit the discussion to technologies close or in consumer hands, which means something that exists and can be afforded.

So paper is great for reading, no one can afford to build a LCD display to look as good as paper, and E-ink doesn't look as good as paper (again, without going nuts on cost). But which of the non-paper technologies is closer to paper, assuming paper is the gold standard for comfortable reading?

You seem to favor pixelqi and not like e-ink, but that doesn't necessarily mean those two display technologies are competing in the exact same space. Pixelqi LCD may displace older LCD displays in some devices, such as notebooks, but it does not necessarily mean it will displace e-ink in reader devices (maybe some other display technology will). I don't think we yet have a single display technology that is suitable for all usage conditions.

I wonder how do the contrast levels of e-ink and an unback-lit pixelqi display compare in various outdoor and indoor lighting conditions?

You probably can't answer all of my questions on pixelqi displays, but that doesn't mean I'm trying to provoke you. I still need those questions answered to properly compare the two display technologies for my needs and it's likely I'll have to wait for real devices to come out first.
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