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Old 07-01-2007, 10:25 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by texag View Post
Wow Orcinus....where are you getting your info from? Twice you've stated no wall charger...twice people have stated they are using one that came with their iphone, myself included.
Once, actually. Yes, i was wrong about the charger, sorry about that.
Here's an explanation:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/ripoff/br...one-273992.php

"Add to that the fact that the salesman didn't even know a charger was included and tried to upsell a different charger to the reader."

However, i stand by everything else i've wrote. It's a very good iPod, and a rather lousy phone. Yes, i'm sure it's the best thing since sliced bread for people who've never had contact with high-end (or even mid-end) phones before, but it's still clunky ergonomics-wise, and lacks things that are considered normal and standard on other, much cheaper phones, while giving less (except the nicely done iPod functionality) than any smartphone on the market.

Yes, the interface *looks* nice, but from what i've seen in the manual, various videos and reviews, it takes longer to do even simplest things than on most other phones and is very limited (note: i'm not talking about the phone now, but the UI).

The "first real" browser? What a laugh. Nokia smarties have had a browser that renders pages like that WITH FLASH, and to make things even funnier, it's based on apple's webkit, just like Safari! Heck, even Microsoft's Deepfish renders things the same way and uses the same overview/zoom-in/read/zoom-out methodology.

HTML mail? Had that for ages... Profimail, Flexmail...

Google maps? How about Nokia Maps? Blackberry Maps?

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Yes, there are "top 10 things wrong" articles out there, but there are also glowing reviews by Pogue, Mossberg, and others that are very well respected and have actually used the iphone.
The "top 10 things" articles and posts were written by early adopters. Maybe it's just me, but i tend to believe people who've actually *bought* the phone and used a lot of other, more advanced phones before more than people who got theirs from Apple.

Besides...

Mossberg: "...and its clever finger-touch interface, which dispenses with a stylus and most buttons, works well, though it sometimes adds steps to common functions.

Mossberg (on keyboard, initially): "I wanted to throw it out the window after 3 days"

Mossberg: "Instead, it uses a pokey network called EDGE, which is far slower than the fastest networks from Verizon or Sprint that power many other smart phones." and immediately after that, betraying how limited his experience with smartphones really is: "The iPhone compensates by being one of the few smart phones that can also use Wi-Fi wireless networks. When you have access to Wi-Fi, the iPhone flies on the Web. Not only that, but the iPhone automatically switches from EDGE to known Wi-Fi networks when it finds them, and pops up a list of new Wi-Fi networks it encounters as you move."

Guess what, *most* smartphones have Wi-Fi and all of them can automatically give preference to Wi-Fi over EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA. All of them list new Wi-Fi networks as they appear.

Let's go on... Mossberg: "But this Wi-Fi capability doesn’t fully make up for the lack of a fast cellular data capability, because it is impractical to keep joining and dropping short-range Wi-Fi networks while taking a long walk, or riding in a cab through a city."

Mossberg: "Some accessories for iPods may not work properly on the iPhone. The headphone jack, which supports both stereo music and phone calls, is deeply recessed, so you may need an adapter for existing headphones."

Mossberg (on interface): "In general, we found this interface, called “multi-touch,” to be effective, practical and fun. But there’s no overall search on the iPhone (except Web searching), and no quick way to move to the top or bottom of pages (except in the Web browser). The only aid is an alphabetical scale on the right in tiny type. There’s also no way to cut, copy, or paste text.
And the lack of dedicated hardware buttons for functions like phone, email and contacts means extra taps are needed to start using features. Also, if you are playing music while doing something else, the lack of hardware playback buttons forces you to return to the iPod program to stop the music or change a song."

And so on, and so on...

Yes, the headlines say it's the best phone in the universe (and i believe for some it really will be), but do try to actually read the full articles and read between the lines as well. What they really say is: "nice first try".
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