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Old 02-08-2010, 08:29 PM   #21
kilron
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Originally Posted by Sonist View Post
You may be grossly overestimating the attention major sites pay to the iPhone.
really? i don't think so. the iPhone and iPod touch have been dominating mobile web browsing ever since they debuted. other mobile platforms are only just now, within the last 6 months, catching up. how can major sites NOT pay attention to the iPhone

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The vast, vast majority of users do NOT use iPhones, or Safari. Nobody in corporate cares, really, and I am afraid they are right.
hulu and netflix don't care if their users can view their content? really??


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Adobe is rolling out Mobile Flash 10 for EVERY major mobile platform, but the iPhone. The new version includes hardware acceleration and H.264, and runs much, much better on mobile hardware.
much much better than what? mobile flash 9? and who runs that. nobody? ok....

the funny thing is, i've seen adobe's little video presentation showcasing flash on android. if that's what we have to look forward to with flash on smartphones, i honestly think most people would pass. its just not worth the headache.

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I think the lack of Flash may be what gives Android OS the competitive advantage to kill the iPhone. I say this with sadness, because so far I like the iPhone OS much better than Android.
now you're assuming that flash support is a key feature that typical consumers are looking for. if i had to guess, i'd say maybe 10% at best consider flash support in their decision at all, let alone as a key differentiating factor.

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Oh, and no, there are a ton of Yahoo videos available in Flash only.
yahoo has videos? like on their news sites? i'll have to check that out. i've disliked yahoo ever since their email went down the tubes. it was a great way of DRIVING people to gmail.


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Yeah, well, the reality is, there is no writing on the wall.

Flash use is increasing. Flash has almost 100% penetration. Flash is used for a lot more stuff, than just videos and ads. Stuff which cannot be easily accomplished with HTML5, even if it is adopted by everyone today.

Turn off your browser's plugins, and try visiting something like the Disney site. It sucks, without Flash. And Disney's major shareholder is Jobs....
yep, steve jobs pretty much owns disney all by himself. and yes, i actually have turned off flash. i'm using a fantastic little plugin called Click2Flash which disables all flash from loading unless i want it to. best thing that ever happened to my browsing experience.

the most interesting thing that has come out of it is that i'm now realizing what all is and isn't flash programming. i'm finding out that a bunch of things that i thought were built with flash actually aren't. and also some things that i thought weren't flash that actually are (which makes me wonder why they were...).

and flash penetration is surely 100% if you use the right variables. if you're counting all web browsers out there on all platforms in use to surf, then its certainly not 100% and its definitely falling.

so say you're a content provider or a company. you want your website to be seen by as many people as possible. you see all of these smartphones and iPod touches and now this new iPad coming out, NONE of which currently can see flash. what are you going to do? afterall, you've spent all this money on SEO to get to the top of google, what good is it when they click on your site and they can't see anything? seriously, what do you do? do you complain about it and stomp your feet on the ground hoping that hardware and software manufacturers get their act together or do you adapt?

Last edited by kilron; 02-08-2010 at 08:32 PM.
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