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Originally Posted by Sonist
An intuitive, multifunction device with the right form factor, which excels at web-browsing, video and music playing, gaming and reading, would sell well, IMO.
The major problem is, that without Flash, the iPad will be crippled for web-browsing, as well for watching much of the currently available video on the web. The availability of Hulu, and the Silverlight-based Netflix streaming service, would have been a reason for many to get an iPad.
But, alas, it's not likely to happen. And, I am afraid, the walled-off Apple TV system already proved to be a total failure.
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the thing is, like steve jobs said, hulu and netflix aren't flash content providers... they're video providers. don't you think they WANT their content on the iPhone and iPad and iPod touches? of course they do. thus i'd be very surprised if we don't see apps from them before 2010 comes to a close. its probably only a matter of time.
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Originally Posted by nekokami
There are a couple of open-source alternative Flash player projects out there if Apple wants to provide this functionality without going through Adobe. Apple is probably banking on HTML5, as many have speculated. It will be interesting to see if they can drive the market.
I note that Apple does offer a YouTube-specific app for iP. YouTube uses Flash. Perhaps they could generalize this. |
youtube uses flash and h.264. you can now watch all videos in either format on youtube. vimeo has this option as well now. i think they see the writing on the wall too.
as for the open-source flash alternatives... that's a tricky route to go. have any major browsers or companies used these? adobe definitely wouldn't support it and my guess is if apple DID go that route, adobe would do things to force incompatibility. the only true way is for adobe themselves to open up the source code for flash player and make it an open standard.
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Originally Posted by Bremen Cole
I bet you end up being right. Of course this device is not going to have iPod like sales, and iPhone type sales would also seem to be a stretch.... but the $500 price point I wager would put 3-5 million units.
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3-5 million was what i was thinking too. i think apple definitely wants to hit a mark around there and if it starts off too slow, speculation is they could knock off $100 or so off the price. that would definitely make them fly off the shelves.
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Originally Posted by scottjl
Considering it isn't even available for preorder how can one say buyers are or aren't convinced? No one has it in their hands. One important thing this survey ignores is the fact that Apple has over 250 stores out there, they are counting on people walking in, checking the iPad out, and walking out with one, regardless of what they answer on a poll today.
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great point! i'm guessing most folks haven't watched the apple keynote and still now that's probably the only resource to get a really good idea for what it can do since no one in the media has had a really good hands-on experience for more than an hour.
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Originally Posted by Sonist
Yeah, but none will be able to get into the iPad, just like Skyfire hasn't made it to the iPhone.
Contrary to popular misconceptions, HTML5 is not a comprehensive replacement for Flash. Flash is not just video, and it does a lot of things HTML5 cannot. Even if HTML5 is universally adopted, it is most likely that it will coexist with Flash for the foreseeable future.
I can reluctantly put up with the lack of Flash on the iPhone, but wouldn't put up with a crippled browser on a device will I would use extensively to browse the web.
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the thing is, i think a lot of developers are seeing the writing on the wall and moving away from flash. the fact is, we're all better off without it. apple knows this. lots of pundits know it too. apple is simply forcing the issue.
besides, probably 75%-90% of the flash i see on the internet every day is advertising i'm not remotely interested in anyway. not a good selling point for consumers if you ask me.